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Hamas vows no truce until demands are met

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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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Well, Hamas has gone all in.

Hamas has stated that so long as their demands are not met, there will be no future ceasefires. Among their demands, includes the lifting of the Israeli blockade, and the reopening of Gaza's sea and air ports.


The Palestinian group Hamas has reiterated that there will be no new ceasefire until Israel meets their demands, defying attempts by Egypt to broker a new deal amid renewed fighting.

"We are not going to agree to a ceasefire without having all of our demands met," Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoem said in a statement to Al Jazeera.

"We will not go back. We are going to continue the war until we achieve our goal. This is what our people want."

Among the reported demands of Hamas are the lifting of the Israeli blockade in Gaza, and the reopening of its seaport and airport.


www.aljazeera.com...

Due to the fact that Hamas has refused the prospect of any near-future ceasefire, it would appear that there are few routes to take in stemming the violence. Either Hamas is convinced to alter their charter, or face demilitarisation. That, or Israel is pressured by the international community to unilaterally restore essential systems to Gaza.
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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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Hamas needs to come out and fight like men and stop hiding behind citizens, schools, ETC. They sure do talk alot of crap don't they?




posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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This is suicide for Hamas.......they wont be getting anything but more cast lead......
I am sorry for the Palestinians and those in gaza but they seem to be causing a great deal of misery for their own people as well as seeking to cause a great deal more in the future.....
Oh well now Hamas can go $%?& themselves ....I refuse to be sucked into feeling sorry for them much longer....



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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The only way to stop this is by destroying Hamas completely.


Hamas does not care about the Palestinian people they only want blood and I wish the civilians would stand up to them.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: SkipperJohn
Hamas needs to come out and fight like men and stop hiding behind citizens, schools, ETC. They sure do talk alot of crap don't they?



Yes, they sure do talk a lot of smack. In fact, both sides talk too much. I don't know what all of Hamas' demands are, but I do agree with ending the blockade and opening their ports. That's not unreasonable in my opinion.
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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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the lifting of the Israeli blockade, and the reopening of Gaza's sea and air ports.


I'm not defending Hamas, but that seems like a pretty reasonable demand to me.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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ISI/ISIL/IS
Boko Harem
Hamas

They have all shown that they cannot be negotiated with...at all. It's their way or the highway...of death.

What's that saying? Oh yea...but I'll paraphrase it just a tad.

"When you negotiate with idiots, you are just lowering yourself down to their level where they will beat you with experience."


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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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I agree in that the demands, as set out by Hamas, seem reasonable. I would even call it fair, considering it was revealed that Israel has intentionally used their control over Gaza to keep it on the verge of collapse.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital


hat, or Israel is pressured by the international community to unilaterally restore essential systems to Gaza.

That right there is telling.

No power, water , sewage treatment. Borders closed, no food or medical aid coming in.

Israel reminds me so much of some parents.

A spanking and sent to ones room without dinner.

Lets hear from parents how to raise criminal kids.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: stirling

I agree with your comment.

It's plain suicide , just think of how many more innocent civilians will die because of this.
Do they still have any schools , hospitals left?


Either they have some helluva plan, or they've lost their marbles.

An afterthought... could they be doing this, because they will get outside help perhaps?
I really don't know, I'm just speculating here.




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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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I think Hamas has decided to take this path, because they see no other choice, besides relinquishing their weapons.

Put it this way. If things settle down again, everyone can be assured that Gaza will run deeper into collapse, and we will have another Israel/Gaza war in three years.

If Hamas goes all in, and refuses a ceasefire, more people are going to die. Pressure is going to be mounted on the international scene to take action, and we will start to see some force against Israel for the inevitable mounting death toll.

Hamas is undertaking a suicide mission, but i believe that they are of the opinion that if they win the media and public relations wars, they will eventually obtain their goals.
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posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
I agree in that the demands, as set out by Hamas, seem reasonable. I would even call it fair, considering it was revealed that Israel has intentionally used their control over Gaza to keep it on the verge of collapse.


I agree , I think this should be done..........

But heres the catch.......If Hamas does ANYTHING after this is done, that sabotages the ports , or make any attacks once things are opened up........they will have effectively ended EVER having decent quality of life for the people of Palestine.....

Think think its bad now, if they violate this, the hammer will fall swift and hard.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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I think Hamas asking for the release of a bit of oppression is fair.... But at the same time opening these ports up could lead to bigger issues down the track also.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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Has there been any reports from the Palestinians in Gaza that state they do not want the demands made by Hamas and that they are not willing to fight or lose any more lives for it?

I am seriously asking. Have their been any reports yet from Palestinians in Gaza that suggest the Palestinians no longer want to be represented by Hamas?



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:52 AM
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A July 15 video explains very well why Hamas won't bow until demands are met.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA
Has there been any reports from the Palestinians in Gaza that state they do not want the demands made by Hamas and that they are not willing to fight or lose any more lives for it?

I am seriously asking. Have their been any reports yet from Palestinians in Gaza that suggest the Palestinians no longer want to be represented by Hamas?


Most likely not.. A few Palestinians attacked a Hamas officer the other day which must mean that the entire Gaza strip is getting ready for a revolution against Hamas. That's about the only report I've heard that comes close to Palestinians disagreeing with Hamas. Maybe there are reports but I haven't seen them.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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Malbosia, that IS the crux of the matter......are the people supporting this war.......
I tend to think that support for this insanity is mixed and dissent is not allowed.....
As regards the opening of the ports.....they will be immediately used to import heavier weapons ....of that you can be guaranteed.....Israel is between a rock and a hard place, but that's nothing new for them....Karma perhaps.....

The Actions of Israel cannot be sanctioned by any right minded person IMHO....on the other hand they cannot bargain with Hamas with good faith expectations.....( not to say they didn't create Hamas to start with....)

,The whole world would be a better cleaner place if we just got rid of all those so called intelligence services that keep screwing around in other peoples countries.....



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
Well, Hamas has gone all in.

Hamas has stated that so long as their demands are not met, there will be no future ceasefires. Among their demands, includes the lifting of the Israeli blockade, and the reopening of Gaza's sea and air ports.


The Palestinian group Hamas has reiterated that there will be no new ceasefire until Israel meets their demands, defying attempts by Egypt to broker a new deal amid renewed fighting.

"We are not going to agree to a ceasefire without having all of our demands met," Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoem said in a statement to Al Jazeera.

"We will not go back. We are going to continue the war until we achieve our goal. This is what our people want."

Among the reported demands of Hamas are the lifting of the Israeli blockade in Gaza, and the reopening of its seaport and airport.


www.aljazeera.com...

Due to the fact that Hamas has refused the prospect of any near-future ceasefire, it would appear that there are few routes to take in stemming the violence. Either Hamas is convinced to alter their charter, or face demilitarisation. That, or Israel is pressured by the international community to unilaterally restore essential systems to Gaza.
hamas just went full retard



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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I think yeah Israel should re open Gaza up BUT under the stipulation of monitoring the entire operation of the air and sea ports. Inspections of all cargo from air and sea and land coming in for a few years. Then after a few years stop monitoring the influx. But if after they stop inspecting and monitoring HAMAS does something again then they lose all those rights they just got back and the un HAS to demand a de militirazation of the area by force if needed.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

"If" hamas does something again? Hamas will do something again, as soon as they see a change for it. Israel kown this. Those demands will not be met. Hamas seeks for the destruction of the nation of Israel. They scream it again and again. Hamas doesn't wants peace. Remember land for peace?



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