Unprecedented: German General Appointed Chief of Staff of US Army Europe

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: pennydrops

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: bjarneorn

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
If someone attacks (Russia) our troops need to be close. Just the threat of US troops is enough to demand caution.

Take your concerns elsewhere ... and your fight with the Russians.

Sooner or later, we'll throw your troops out ... I suggest you have them leave, before that happens.

Ooohhh scary. Who saved Europe's ass multiple times already? Who will be there to do it again next time?

I have no concern, nor a fight with Russia, Russia only picks on those it can actually beat, like Eastern European countries.

When Europe engaged Libya and it ran out of ammo in a week who did they ask to support them? That's right. How about you take your drivel elsewhere. Get your government to fund their military and grow a backbone.

The Russians saved us in WW2.

They crippled the Nazis on the eastern front, losing millions of lives in the process. The US joined once we were past the worse. This is common knowledge.

jeez.

How incredibly shortsighted you are. Had Russia beat the Germans and Marched all the way through France what do you think Europe would look like today? America DID save you in WW2, you just fail to understand how.

Your totally deluded.

Had the scenario you describe occurred, Britain would have pulled the 14th Army ( along with other Commonwealth Troops and equipment ) out of The Far East to take on the threat nearer to home.
Leaving the U.S. to take on The Japanese without British involvement.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

Ooohhh scary. Who saved Europe's ass multiple times already?

The British along with American, Canadians and Australian allies......o and Russians

The Russians is what America saved them from. Russia would have beat Germany and marched to the Atlantic and all of Europe and most likely England would have fallen under the Iron Curtain.

America was not needed to beat Germany, but they absolutely did save Europe. Canada and Australia were, have been, and are instrumental allies and they bought victories with the blood of their heroes. Any American who showed the level of ungratefulness towards them that the people have shown in this thread towards the US are in need of a lesson.

Also anyone saying Russia is not a threat need only look at the Ukraine and Georgia, and the fact Eastern European countries are begging for a US presence.

Agreed.

America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Not demeaning their contributions. Hell the Russians lost millions, 800,000 died of starvation at Stalingrad alone.

Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

He could have starved the Brits out, they were very close a few times. He could have not turned his force headed to Moscow to the south for cities with no strategic value, thus not delaying them until the winter which wiped them out.

The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

a reply to: oblvion

Well pitch a fit and throw a tantrum all you like as its has happened before and will happened again so suck it up.

Unlike you I have no problems with my own country's troops being commanded by CLOSE allied forces in appropriate areas of operation. As long as said commander meets standards.

As Zaphod said it not like a British General given some American troops in Afghanistan will whisk them off to guard the queen. There are normally strict rules to follow still.

originally posted by: oblvion


America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

Bull crap Britain stabilised the front way before the USA even declared war.

Battle of Britain was won with British pilots using British planes.

originally posted by: oblvion
In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Again bull crap.

UK had already repelled the German Invasion prio to US involvement and decimated its air forces.

originally posted by: oblvion
Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

As painful as that would have been it was the RAF and Royal Navy that saved Britain from invasion.

originally posted by: oblvion
The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

Il give you that. Hitler did more to save the UK than the USA did.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: LibertyPD32

Its the longest first step I've ever seen considering it's been happening since WWII.

In a way, it started long before WWII. Lafayette was made a general in 1777. Steuben (another German!) became Inspector General in 1778. Different situations, but the commentarati would probably react the same way.

I've been under the command of foreign troops. It's no big deal. The battle captain says "You'll be working for the _____ today," you say "roger that," then you go on the internet and try to figure out their slang so you can understand what they're saying.

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

Ooohhh scary. Who saved Europe's ass multiple times already?

The British along with American, Canadians and Australian allies......o and Russians

The Russians is what America saved them from. Russia would have beat Germany and marched to the Atlantic and all of Europe and most likely England would have fallen under the Iron Curtain.

America was not needed to beat Germany, but they absolutely did save Europe. Canada and Australia were, have been, and are instrumental allies and they bought victories with the blood of their heroes. Any American who showed the level of ungratefulness towards them that the people have shown in this thread towards the US are in need of a lesson.

Also anyone saying Russia is not a threat need only look at the Ukraine and Georgia, and the fact Eastern European countries are begging for a US presence.

Agreed.

America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Not demeaning their contributions. Hell the Russians lost millions, 800,000 died of starvation at Stalingrad alone.

Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

He could have starved the Brits out, they were very close a few times. He could have not turned his force headed to Moscow to the south for cities with no strategic value, thus not delaying them until the winter which wiped them out.

The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

There are two versions of The History Of WW II

The American version

The Real version.

I see you use the former.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: oblvion

Well pitch a fit and throw a tantrum all you like as its has happened before and will happened again so suck it up.

Unlike you I have no problems with my own country's troops being commanded by CLOSE allied forces in appropriate areas of operation. As long as said commander meets standards.

As Zaphod said it not like a British General given some American troops in Afghanistan will whisk them off to guard the queen. There are normally strict rules to follow still.

Thanks for talking down to me, I really appreciate to condecention!!!

I mean it isnt like I served for 6 years and know all this quite well already.

This isnt some small position though. No he will not be the guy issuing commands. It is worse. He is a chief of staff, He will be making policy, which then dictates commands.

Commands are pretty far down the chain, policy is what decides everything.

This guy is in charge of creating US military policy and doctrine for his area of responsibility.

That is way more power over US troops than any person on this Earth that isnt an American needs.

Let him be a chief of staff for his own military if he is worth a toss, oh wait, they didnt want him for the job for their guys? Why let him do it for ours?

Nobody sends their best out to serve others, they send out people they dont want or dont need.

Thanks for sending the guy you dont want, to lead my battle buddies.

You guys can keep him.

I quarantee there are at least 100 Americans more qualified, and more capable, to decide the needs of the US, since they are our guys after all.

Let them Germans keep this guy for their own since he is so badass, we dont need or want him.

a reply to: BABYBULL24

There is a rumor around that Germany has had a few years of it's national history where Nazis were not a centerpiece. I think they even have a few military officers in modern times who aren't blood descendants of Hitler himself to rebuild the Reich at the first opportunity.

Do you think it's possible this General officer may be one of those who really aren't a closet Nazi in the 21st century?

Turning back to being completely serious, why does the simple mention of Germany or German citizens cause some people to relate everything to a period of less than 15 years in war for a national heritage that spans centuries of great pride and accomplishment????

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: oblvion


America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

Bull crap Britain stabilised the front way before the USA even declared war.

Battle of Britain was won with British pilots using British planes.

originally posted by: oblvion
In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Again bull crap.

UK had already repelled the German Invasion prio to US involvement and decimated its air forces.

originally posted by: oblvion
Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

As painful as that would have been it was the RAF and Royal Navy that saved Britain from invasion.

originally posted by: oblvion
The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

Il give you that. Hitler did more to save the UK than the USA did.

Really? So America didnt pass the "lend lease act" to give Britain our stuff against the law BTW in peace time at the time?

So we didnt have to send our pilots over there that actually had many kills during the "battle of Britain"? Werent the Brits all eating US food, that our merchant marines died by the thousands to Nazi U boats to deliver?

Oh wait I got it, It was us not sending millions of tons of goods to Britain, at the loss of our money and lives, that saved Britain right?


The brits were beaten. they had no chance at all without US support.

Their tiny little island cant even feed its population, or their industry, but your right, Britain did it all alone.

The US came in and swept the floors after it was all over, because we were not even a factor.

Have you ever even read a book in your life?

a reply to: oblvion

Seeing as his area of Responsibility is Europe I think a European will be just as qualified if not more so than a American.

originally posted by: oblvion

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Really? So America didnt pass the "lend lease act" to give Britain our stuff against the law BTW in peace time at the time?

It helped but weather is saved us? No idea there were dozens of factors on going at the time. US material support was just one.

originally posted by: oblvion
So we didnt have to send our pilots over there that actually had many kills during the "battle of Britain"?

A squadron, and there were no officially deployed anyway just volunteers. 1 Squadron was hardly decisive.

Think you been watching too much pearl harbour.

originally posted by: oblvion
Werent the Brits all eating US food, that our merchant marines died by the thousands to Nazi U boats to deliver?

food was coming in from other places too. As I said above, there was many many factors the US was JUST ONE. It was far from being sole savour.

originally posted by: oblvion
Oh wait I got it, It was us not sending millions of tons of goods to Britain, at the loss of our money and lives, that saved Britain right?

Read above...one of many factors.

originally posted by: oblvion
The brits were beaten.

Notice when the UK surrendered? O that right it didn't,

originally posted by: oblvion
Their tiny little island cant even feed its population, or their industry, but your right, Britain did it all alone.

Never said it did it all alone. Read above MANY FACTORS of which the USA was JUST one.

My problem is you making it sound like the USA was its sole savour. It wasnt.

originally posted by: oblvion
The US came in and swept the floors after it was all over, because we were not even a factor.

UK/USA/Russia swept the floor. WORKING TOGETHER

originally posted by: oblvion
Have you ever even read a book in your life?

Yes many.

Have you? It seems you get your history of hollywood and mel gibbson films.

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: oblvion


America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

Bull crap Britain stabilised the front way before the USA even declared war.

Battle of Britain was won with British pilots using British planes.

originally posted by: oblvion
In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Again bull crap.

UK had already repelled the German Invasion prio to US involvement and decimated its air forces.

originally posted by: oblvion
Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

As painful as that would have been it was the RAF and Royal Navy that saved Britain from invasion.

originally posted by: oblvion
The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

Il give you that. Hitler did more to save the UK than the USA did.

Really? So America didnt pass the "lend lease act" to give Britain our stuff against the law BTW in peace time at the time?

So we didnt have to send our pilots over there that actually had many kills during the "battle of Britain"? Werent the Brits all eating US food, that our merchant marines died by the thousands to Nazi U boats to deliver?

Oh wait I got it, It was us not sending millions of tons of goods to Britain, at the loss of our money and lives, that saved Britain right?


The brits were beaten. they had no chance at all without US support.

Their tiny little island cant even feed its population, or their industry, but your right, Britain did it all alone.

The US came in and swept the floors after it was all over, because we were not even a factor.

Have you ever even read a book in your life?

America "gave " Britain nothing under lend lease. Everything we had was paid for.

America didn't send U.S. pilots to fight in The Battle Of Britain. They volunteered. There where a grand total of 11 ( eleven ) U.S. pilots at The Battle Of Britain.

Britain is a " Tiny Island" That's what has made Britain the greatest ever nation. To do what we did over history compared to our size. No other nation can compete with that.

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: oblvion


America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

Bull crap Britain stabilised the front way before the USA even declared war.

Battle of Britain was won with British pilots using British planes.

originally posted by: oblvion
In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Again bull crap.

UK had already repelled the German Invasion prio to US involvement and decimated its air forces.

originally posted by: oblvion
Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

As painful as that would have been it was the RAF and Royal Navy that saved Britain from invasion.

originally posted by: oblvion
The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

Il give you that. Hitler did more to save the UK than the USA did.

Really? So America didnt pass the "lend lease act" to give Britain our stuff against the law BTW in peace time at the time?

So we didnt have to send our pilots over there that actually had many kills during the "battle of Britain"? Werent the Brits all eating US food, that our merchant marines died by the thousands to Nazi U boats to deliver?

Oh wait I got it, It was us not sending millions of tons of goods to Britain, at the loss of our money and lives, that saved Britain right?


The brits were beaten. they had no chance at all without US support.

Their tiny little island cant even feed its population, or their industry, but your right, Britain did it all alone.

The US came in and swept the floors after it was all over, because we were not even a factor.

Have you ever even read a book in your life?

America "gave " Britain nothing under lend lease. Everything we had was paid for.

America didn't send U.S. pilots to fight in The Battle Of Britain. They volunteered. There where a grand total of 11 ( eleven ) U.S. pilots at The Battle Of Britain.

Britain is a " Tiny Island" That's what has made Britain the greatest ever nation. To do what we did over history compared to our size. No other nation can compete with that.

So then, the penny finally drops. This is not about truth to you it is about national pride.

I hereby acknowledge and admire your large British penis, yes me and my tiny American penis are in awe of your giant British penis.

Now that I stroked your ego, can we get back to talking about reality and facts?

Nobody said America did it all. We did do very much though, and your trying to minimize our very large and active role to stroke your ego is kinda sorry to watch honestly.

Britain could not have won alone, if you cant admit this your an idiot. By all means be proud of your country and people and your long history, but at least be honest. Britain would be speaking German right now without the US, or worse, Russian.

If the Germans had not defeated you, it would have been the Russians when they swept across Europe.

With no US involvement in WW2 Britain makes about 9 months to a year after Calais.

The Germans would have surrounded your island with U boats, and stopped all imports, Britain would have starved and died alone in the cold dark without heat or even power. And just as you guys thought it couldnt get any worse, the landing craft would have started discharging your final end as they took and controlled both Britain and the entire north Atlantic.

We, as your cousins, could not watch this obvious end and not respond. So we did what we did.

We did not do it alone, but we did a lot of the heavy lifting on all fronts, as we also fought the Japanese in the Pacific, while Britain couldnt even fight the 1 front they had alone.

America fought across the entire globe, with numbers of men and equipment Britain could not have matched if they put a gun in the hand of every child, and melted down every tea put for scrap.

Britain at best was a big small dog in a fight with great danes.

They were a small tiny part of a giant war. At most they had a 7% impact, where Americas impact was closer to 50%.

Granted we have stocks of resources and populations you dont. So we could obvioulsy do much more way more easily. So we did.

Britain did what it does best. Small unit tactics and information warfare. In this category the Brits were unmatched.

They are the ones that cracked the enigma code. Hell even German soldiers in their intelligence department are quoted as saying " we will follow our orders when they come from British intelligence".
I am not saying the Brits didnt play a large and important role.

I am just saying none of it would have mattered if we didnt get involved. Without us Britain was done up, just like a christmas goose.

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: oblvion


America is the only reason Britain didnt collapse in WW2. We kept the western front open and alive. If not for US support, germany could have had a 1 front war, and crushed Russia.

Bull crap Britain stabilised the front way before the USA even declared war.

Battle of Britain was won with British pilots using British planes.

originally posted by: oblvion
In fact, Russia China and Britain were all just about done up until we came.

Again bull crap.

UK had already repelled the German Invasion prio to US involvement and decimated its air forces.

originally posted by: oblvion
Hitler was the true architect of German defeat. He ordered his artillery not to wipe out the entire British and French armies at the port town of Calais.

As painful as that would have been it was the RAF and Royal Navy that saved Britain from invasion.

originally posted by: oblvion
The single most important piece on the board towards German defeat in WW2, was Hitler. The douche beat himself.

Il give you that. Hitler did more to save the UK than the USA did.

Really? So America didnt pass the "lend lease act" to give Britain our stuff against the law BTW in peace time at the time?

So we didnt have to send our pilots over there that actually had many kills during the "battle of Britain"? Werent the Brits all eating US food, that our merchant marines died by the thousands to Nazi U boats to deliver?

Oh wait I got it, It was us not sending millions of tons of goods to Britain, at the loss of our money and lives, that saved Britain right?


The brits were beaten. they had no chance at all without US support.

Their tiny little island cant even feed its population, or their industry, but your right, Britain did it all alone.

The US came in and swept the floors after it was all over, because we were not even a factor.

Have you ever even read a book in your life?

America "gave " Britain nothing under lend lease. Everything we had was paid for.

America didn't send U.S. pilots to fight in The Battle Of Britain. They volunteered. There where a grand total of 11 ( eleven ) U.S. pilots at The Battle Of Britain.

Britain is a " Tiny Island" That's what has made Britain the greatest ever nation. To do what we did over history compared to our size. No other nation can compete with that.

So then, the penny finally drops. This is not about truth to you it is about national pride.

I hereby acknowledge and admire your large British penis, yes me and my tiny American penis are in awe of your giant British penis.

Now that I stroked your ego, can we get back to talking about reality and facts?

Nobody said America did it all. We did do very much though, and your trying to minimize our very large and active role to stroke your ego is kinda sorry to watch honestly.

Britain could not have won alone, if you cant admit this your an idiot. By all means be proud of your country and people and your long history, but at least be honest. Britain would be speaking German right now without the US, or worse, Russian.

If the Germans had not defeated you, it would have been the Russians when they swept across Europe.

With no US involvement in WW2 Britain makes about 9 months to a year after Calais.

The Germans would have surrounded your island with U boats, and stopped all imports, Britain would have starved and died alone in the cold dark without heat or even power. And just as you guys thought it couldnt get any worse, the landing craft would have started discharging your final end as they took and controlled both Britain and the entire north Atlantic.

We, as your cousins, could not watch this obvious end and not respond. So we did what we did.

We did not do it alone, but we did a lot of the heavy lifting on all fronts, as we also fought the Japanese in the Pacific, while Britain couldnt even fight the 1 front they had alone.

America fought across the entire globe, with numbers of men and equipment Britain could not have matched if they put a gun in the hand of every child, and melted down every tea put for scrap.

Britain at best was a big small dog in a fight with great danes.

They were a small tiny part of a giant war. At most they had a 7% impact, where Americas impact was closer to 50%.

Granted we have stocks of resources and populations you dont. So we could obvioulsy do much more way more easily. So we did.

Britain did what it does best. Small unit tactics and information warfare. In this category the Brits were unmatched.

They are the ones that cracked the enigma code. Hell even German soldiers in their intelligence department are quoted as saying " we will follow our orders when they come from British intelligence".
I am not saying the Brits didnt play a large and important role.

I am just saying none of it would have mattered if we didnt get involved. Without us Britain was done up, just like a christmas goose.

Who kicked The Nazi's out of North Africa ? Answer British & Commonwealth troops. America only got involved during "The Mopping Up Stage"

America only got involved in The War because of Pearl Harbour. America needed British & Commonwealth Forces to take on The Japanese.

After " The Battle Of Britain" Britain was never again under threat of being invaded by Nazi Germany. Hitler turned east toward Russia. At that stage Britain could have pulled out of the war and left it to mainland Europe to carry it on. Because we are Britain......we didn't.

If Britain had fallen, where do you think The D Day Landings on Normandy have been launched from. There where more British and Canadian Troops during D Day than Americans. Also The Ships, Aircraft and other equipment during D.Day supplied by The British out numbered The U.S. by 3 to 1

During "The Battle Of The Bulge" Americans where getting their arsed kicked by The Nazi's. Field Marshall Montgomery had to show Patton how it should be done.

originally posted by: oblvion

We did not do it alone, but we did a lot of the heavy lifting on all fronts, as we also fought the Japanese in the Pacific, while Britain couldnt even fight the 1 front they had alone.

BULL **** Russia USA and UK all did it fair share of heavy lifting.

originally posted by: oblvion
America fought across the entire globe,

So did the UK. We fought in Europe, Africa,Italy Burma and at the beginning and at end the Pacific.

originally posted by: oblvion
with numbers of men and equipment Britain could not have matched if they put a gun in the hand of every child, and melted down every tea put for scrap.

Were did you pull that **** out of of? The numbers of UK and Americans that died were about the same. The numbers of British deployed in Europe were about the same as America.

originally posted by: oblvion
Britain at best was a big small dog in a fight with great danes.

Britain was still a superpower at this time.

originally posted by: oblvion
They were a small tiny part of a giant war. At most they had a 7% impact, where Americas impact was closer to 50%.

T&C wont allow to say what I think of you and this comment.

7%?

America 50% ?

If anything Russia was 50%! with UK and USA around 20% and other allies 10%

But for sake of argument I will say 25% each to USSR, USA and UK with 25% to others.

But 7%?

Your a disgrace.

originally posted by: oblvion
Granted we have stocks of resources and populations you dont. So we could obvioulsy do much more way more easily. So we did.

USA had more men but we kept ours in the field longer. Causality rates ended up about equal. We both took the same losses throughout the war to go stuff that 7%.

originally posted by: oblvion
Britain did what it does best. Small unit tactics and information warfare. In this category the Brits were unmatched.

Dont patronise us.

Battle of Britain, Battle of El Almein, , battle of Burma, Battle of Monte Cassino, its share of the D day landings were on similar scales to the USA.

originally posted by: oblvion
I am just saying none of it would have mattered if we didnt get involved. Without us Britain was done up, just like a christmas goose.

WIthout Russia or Britain we were all done for.

USA was not the only main player!

Americans like you make me sick

- stars.

a reply to: crazyewok

LOL...so I am a disgrace by English standards huh......meh who gives three tosses, I am an American, I wipe my arse with the union jack every morning.

The only standards I could care about are my peoples. What next my comments arent popular in bangladesh? Who cares, I know I dont. Save your self righteous judgments for those dumb enough to care about your opinion.

You dont want to walk down this path brother. There is no insult in your entire culture that would offend me, as I find your culture to be lesser than mine. I mean honestly in my world, you throwing me the worst you got, is the same as some somali trying to insult me, I would only be able to care less and laugh harder at your impotent attempts at outrage if I were drunk.

Lets keep this simple and stop with the childish jabs ok? I am also quite capable of throwing attitude around, this is just me warming up. I dont want to go the "full monty"(yes pun intended) but I will get another T&C violation, all those applause gave me some extra ATS points to throw at the garbage bin, what else are they good for?

As you can see, I can do it as well, and it gets all of us nowhere. PLZ, lets be civil.

I understand you want to praise your heroes, but honestly....monty? The guy was a complete douche, not to mention I am pretty certain he was gay, no wait.....that was just his British accent.( come on dont get mad at this, I honestly meant it tongue in cheek).

Honestly though, monty was one of the least manly men I have ever even heard of, even "the artist formerly known as prince" was quite a bit more manly than monty on his best day.

Ok enough rousing you guys, I apologize for real. I just think it is funny. You Brits are famous the world over for your tact and decorum, yet you guys are all but foaming at the mouth over my half drunken postings. I honestly meant no insult, I thought you guys could take this better, it is what your famous for.

Honestly I would swear your Americans, with all that smoldering rage rising up at the mere mention of you guys not being badass.

We are family after all, I was just poking you with a stick, it is how we Irish( not actually Irish, I am 100% American, though my roots come from Ireland 12 generations back)like to pass the time. It is fun to get other riled up for no reason at all, then we all laugh at our douchebaggery over a few beers. Come on guys, you know you want a pint.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

That is the question that the military should be asking, where does it say anywhere in our nations of laws that our military should be subjected to the rules of a foreign entity.

This should be a terrific topic of research.

Could it be that the road to a global world army or military entity is been pave, but interestingly that is not supported by our constitution and I thought that the UN was that entity, personally I don't like what is been done, the appointee general must have extensive training in US military law and procedures in order to be able to command US troops, because under German military laws our US troops doesn't have to answer at all

And that is just my opinion.

a reply to: marg6043

Where does it say they are subject to orders by anyone but the Pentagon?

Jesus this is getting blown out of proportion. This is a German officer serving in the US chain of command. That's all. It's been happening for decades already.

a reply to: Zaphod58

No in the position he has been appointed.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: marg6043

Where does it say they are subject to orders by anyone but the Pentagon?

Jesus this is getting blown out of proportion. This is a German officer serving in the US chain of command. That's all. It's been happening for decades already.

You keep acting like this is nothing.

Why does a soldier from any other country have need to command another countries soldiers?

1) training, a third world country would need a modernized military commander to implement new technologies and techniques. The US is not a third world country, and has the most advanced military on earth, we are the guys that give others lessons.

2)experience, lesser militaries need experienced leadership to show them how it is done, this is well known, the French did it for us in the revolutionary war. The US military needs no direction from anyone in any country, we are quite great at warfare thank you.

3) propaganda, even this one doenst play out. We are the propaganda, we send in the carriers everything gets real polite real fast......or else. It works every time without fail, in fact name one time our carriers didnt stop stupidity flat out, either at their arrival, or at the tip of their spear.

What was your point again?

Why would the most powerful most advanced most lethal military on earth by far need this guy in a position of authority over its troops?

They dont, there is not one single good reason, other than making the Germans feel special, which our military is not geared to accomplish, as its job isnt feel good crap, it is killing folks fast and bad.

What was this guy needed for again?

Nothing thats right. He has no business setting policy for my battle buddies, he serves absolutely no purpose but allowing a foreign country to set doctrine for my brothers he doesnt care about like he does his guys.

I know, lets turn the 82nd over to IS, it is just a team building exercise whats then big deal?

Hey we will give china policy control of the 5th fleet, this will not effect us at all right? ( first order of business chinese admiral writes a policy that says all US warships leave the pacific forever) it isnt like letting another country right the policy your troops have to follow could be at odds with the same troops countries best interests).