Democrats, Liberals reap massive cash advantage from top political spenders

a reply to: theantediluvian

Again. What are you trying to prove? Nothing you pasted in that post does anything but support my statement:

Thought it was obvious.

UNIONS.

CORPORATIONS.

PEOPLE.

All try to buy politicians.

What some people are trying to do is stack the deck in their favor, and get rid of corporations.

To where only UNIONS, and PEOPLE are left.

But then again considering the last 2 presidential elections the LEFT has ZERO problems raising 2 billion dollars to buy the those elections so the ISSUE IS WHAT ?

The people are for sale.

Business are for sale.

Unions are for sale.

originally posted by: neo96
What some people are trying to do is stack the deck in their favor, and get rid of corporations.

I agree. It would be the downfall of America if corporate welfare ended. Hell, those making billions shouldn't have to even recognize that there are some in the country trying to survive on food stamps. Not their care or worry. Cripes. Why are we even bothering these people. They have better things to do. Like make money for..... themselves.

a reply to: intrepid

I agree. It would be the downfall of America if corporate welfare ended. Hell, those making billions shouldn't have to even recognize that there are some in the country trying to survive on food stamps.

The JP Morgans make billions off food stamps which is corporate welfare in more ways the one.

The food stores make a killing.

The bankers make a killing.

Corporate welfare in this country is am multi trillion dollar industry.

But it isn't going anywhere.

Because the right can't even bring up the discussion without being accused of 'hating' people.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: intrepid

I agree. It would be the downfall of America if corporate welfare ended. Hell, those making billions shouldn't have to even recognize that there are some in the country trying to survive on food stamps.

The JP Morgans make billions off food stamps which is corporate welfare in more ways the one.

*snip*

Because the right can't even bring up the discussion without being accused of 'hating' people.

No. Because that's the Right's bread and butter maker. Let's not gild the lily.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: theantediluvian

Again. What are you trying to prove? Nothing you pasted in that post does anything but support my statement:

Thought it was obvious.

UNIONS.

CORPORATIONS.

PEOPLE.

All try to buy politicians.

What some people are trying to do is stack the deck in their favor, and get rid of corporations.

To where only UNIONS, and PEOPLE are left.

But then again considering the last 2 presidential elections the LEFT has ZERO problems raising 2 billion dollars to buy the those elections so the ISSUE IS WHAT ?

The people are for sale.

Business are for sale.

Unions are for sale.

It's really ironic you would bring up unions - let's take a look at union donations versus another donor, shall we?

CHART: Koch Spends More Than Double Top Ten Unions Combined (republicreport.org)



Kochs spent over $400 million just in 2012, and are on pace to spend $300 million for the 2014 midterms.

The real story is that the Republicans and their financial backers (i.e. those elected stooges they bought off) push for election rule changes that help them to hide their donations. That's how we ended up with Citizens United.

For the last election, Koch PAC spent $4.9 million in disclosed contributions (figures that appear on the chart referenced by Strassel). But they also spent over $407 million on undisclosed campaign entities, which does not show up in the CRP chart.

This undisclosed campaign system is nothing new for the Koch brothers. In 1995 and 1996, Koch set up a shell company called Triad Management to spend millions in secret money to help the Republican Party. Of course, this type of spending never shows up in databases like the one cited by Strassel.

All NRLB-regulated unions, on the other hand, disclose every outside payment. Payments that cannot be found through the FEC can be found on a database maintained by the Labor Department. Individuals and corporations are under no such similar disclosure rules. The Koch money identified recently by the Washington Post, the $407 million, relates only to they money filtered through foundations and nonprofits. The money Koch spends as a corporate entity, which it has in the past, may have gone unreported.

Koch is only one major money player keeping their donations hidden, another is Sheldon Adelson, who alone spent $93 million in the 2012 elections (money that was undisclosed at the time, but only uncovered by the Washington Times).

Between the Koch and Adelson, that's a staggering half a billion dollars, from just two donors.



Regarding the OP, the same source (opensecrets.org) states that Republicans have received more than $100 million more than Democrats this year. The post title is therefore back-asswards, it's the Republicans reaping a massive cash advantage.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Who cares?

Don't act like the LEFT doesn't do the same thing.

With their , Buffets, GORE's. their SOROS's, their Kerry's.

Demagagogue the Kochs til the cows come home.


Fourteen of America’s 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Who cares?

Don't act like the LEFT doesn't do the same thing.

With their , Buffets, GORE's. their SOROS's, their Kerry's.

Demagagogue the Kochs til the cows come home.


Fourteen of America’s 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions

That's a helluva platform to run on. And people wonder why people aren't voting GOP.

a reply to: intrepid

So apparently.

Buying politicians is a bad thing when the right does it.

When corporations do it.

But anyone else ?

No problems!.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: intrepid

So apparently.

Buying politicians is a bad thing when the right does it.

When corporations do it.

But anyone else ?

No problems!.

Reread that dude. Seriously. Maybe it might sink in. Your words. I don't think I should have to point out the obvious.

a reply to: neo96

It's a bad thing when any side does it, but that's the way these days, isn't it? Capitalism at its finest.

a reply to: intrepid

I know what I said.

Why should I give a crap about what the right does when the LEFT DOES THE SAME EXACT THING?

And they DO THE SAME EXACT thing.

originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: neo96

It's a bad thing when any side does it, but that's the way these days, isn't it? Capitalism at its finest.

Thank you.

That was the point.

The GOP is bad for it.

The DNC is not.

If one is guilty then they both are.

a reply to: neo96

No. You said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that corporate welfare(lobby) is OK. People lobby is not. Right? I'd reread what you posted before replying if I was you.

a reply to: intrepid

Lobbying is what EVERYONE DOES.

Be it corporations.

Be it unions.

Be it people.

They are all trying to buy government.


But that goes back to an earlier comment.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Small business owners are the largest employers in this country.

Them evil corporations of the multinational kind don't have to.

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer


Republicans have out-raised Democrats by $117.8 million. You're claim that Democrats "reap major cash advantage" is utterly false. Republicans are way ahead of Democrats in terms of political donations. Republicans are better at hiding who is donating to their candidates through dark money groups. The sort of thing they are trying to nullify at the FEC.

Let us also not forget the Partisanless Groups that make the top donations to BOTH parties that could care less about parties.

Top Donors to Obama

Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

Top Donors to Romney

Goldman Sachs $1,033,204
Bank of America $1,013,402
Morgan Stanley $911,305
JPMorgan Chase & Co $834,096
Wells Fargo $677,076
Credit Suisse Group $643,120
Deloitte LLP $614,874
Kirkland & Ellis $520,541
Citigroup Inc $511,199
PricewaterhouseCoopers $459,400
UBS AG $453,540
Barclays $446,000
Ernst & Young $390,992
HIG Capital $382,904
Blackstone Group $366,525
General Electric $332,875
EMC Corp $320,679
Bain Capital $285,970
Elliott Management $281,675
Rothman Institute $259,500

a reply to: xuenchen

Where are the Koch Brothers?

The Koch brothers give money to both sides. They could care less what party you are in they only care whether the politician they buy will do their bidding or not.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: theantediluvian

Who the hell cheers the Citizen's United verdict?

The Democrats should.

After all that is why they get to sue them evil corporations all the time.

And because of that ruling is why UNIONS get to buy politicians just like them evil corporations do.

Seem Unions are always brought in the discussion when it comes to crony capitalism.
Sorry charlie but it is not true.

The Corporate and Banking Cheerleaders scream at the idea of people grouping together (unions) for their own benefit and say they should stand on their feet while the Heads of Corporations over many people rush to DC for government solutions.


Misc Business $6,222,186,821
Health $6,129,444,976
Finance/Insur/RealEst $6,114,392,300
Communic/Electronics $5,024,864,161
Energy/Nat Resource $4,541,655,840
Other $3,238,679,056
Transportation $3,112,258,359
Ideology/Single-Issue $2,006,128,150
Agribusiness $1,838,821,458
Defense $1,754,280,083
Construction $669,720,712

Labor $606,259,501

Lawyers & Lobbyists $420,666,755

Labor consisting of Private and Public Unions is near the bottom of the list.
Call it what you want, but people need to band together at the lower spectrum against the corporate and banking fascists that have hijacked our government for their own selfish interests over the well being of the country. From the increasing political donations, they believe in a controlled market for themselves and "Free Market" for everyone else. They say government is not the solution while they pile money in their cronies pockets for solutions.

a reply to: neo96


Don't worry, Liberals are going to completely ignore your post because of Racism or something like that.