US Squadron of AC- 130 ' could end ISIS in few months time.

a reply to: daaskapital ISIS does not have an airforce or soviet union or China to help it. Apples and oranges.

a reply to: Zaphod58
ISIS does not poses any serious threat to AC-130.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
And when the gunships encounter heavy ground defenses and get slaughtered? What then? B-52s to carpet bomb three hell out of them?

The King of Battle,artillery.

a reply to: Xeven

A MANPADS is a serious threat to a gunship. Your intelligence sources have assured you that they don't have a single MANPADS huh. Or you inventoried their weapons yourself?

originally posted by: Xeven
US Squadron of AC- 130 ' could end ISIS in few months time. AC-130' accompanied by recon and he'll fire equipped drones could clear ISIS out in a very precision way we very little to no ground support.

I hope Obama will man up for this. I back his peaceful strategies around the world but ISIS are not human beings like the rest of us.

They are uncivlized pathetic animals who do not deserve normal justice or consideration.

AC-130 can kill and destroy them with almost no civilian casualties.

They can run but they will just die tired.

AC-130

If the US/UK/Israel wanted ISIS to not be they wouldn't exist at all to begin with.How hard is it to identify and discharge a couple of thousand(at the most) of ignorant unorganized terrorists running around freely like goats...Heck I would have done a couple of hundred million dollars contract and took care of the problem entirely if I was still in my 30,s...Problem is there is no real will to stop ISIS or any other terrorist group for that matter.

a reply to: Willtell

True...perhaps my analogy was a poor one.

That said, i still think it would be a difficult task, especially considering the ways in which ISIS can operate.

Starting to think that US wants ISIS to live
ISIS is a free entry pass to IRAQ land whenever they need to look for oil and other resources

a reply to: Xeven

To reinforce my point, Specter 03, tail number 69-6567 was lost, with all 14 crew members killed, when it started over a group of Marines to protect them in 1991. It was hit by a single Strela-2 shoulder fired missile.

They operate in the heart of the MANPADS threat area.

a reply to: Xeven

You know this how?

It doesn't take much in the way of a missile to ruin a gunships day...

originally posted by: daaskapital
To be honest, i don't think it would destroy ISIS.

History has shown that air power is insufficient in dealing with guerrilla fighters, even when the air power is supported by specialist ground forces.

ISIS is a rare breed. They move like water.

One moment, ISIS fighters are hiding among civilian populations, the next, they are driving in convoys and operating as a traditional army. These guys are not the average fighter.

I don't think they will be uprooted easily.

I'd guess the strategy would be to wait for them to be in the convoy mode then surround them. You could "wick them out" by giving them a big juicy target to head for, then surround them.

a reply to: stormcell

And then they open up with MANPADS while the convoy is being worked over, and there are fewer gunships and crews in the inventory.

originally posted by: Spacespider
Starting to think that US wants ISIS to live
ISIS is a free entry pass to IRAQ land whenever they need to look for oil and other resources

So the US move in to remove Saddam Hussein, spend nearly 10 years in the country fighting insurgents, training security forces and hand pick a friendly government, to then leave with the grand plan of letting ISIS come in afterwards to destroy and pillage the place and give themselves a free entry pass??

Please, use your brain! If they wanted a free run in Iraq, they would never have left and just come up with some contrived reason to stay.

a reply to: stormcell

I'd say their strategy will be the same as what they've done before, targeted bombs on buildings they suspect ISIS are occupying, and on convoys.

My money is on bombing convoys, as the announcement of military action comes with the news of ISIS's latest push.

I'm sure there are must be some boots on the ground too, if for nothing more than recon.

a reply to: AlphaHawk

Lasing targets of opportunity for the TACAIR.

I'm wondering if this will be the eventual road to Syria.. Given that is where
ISIS spilled out of after being chased out of Iraq already.

Just a thought.

a reply to: Spacespider

You want to lose pilots? Why any a-10's they are slow, and unless you have complete air superiority and ground support to clear out sams/manpads you are going to lose aircraft.

200 drones and the ac130s will do just fine.

a reply to: Hijinx

Uhm....what?

You don't want to send A-10s, because anti-air will cause a loss of aircraft, but you'll send MORE vulnerable AC-130s, with significantly larger crews, that operate right smack in the heart of the MANPADS zone instead?

Oh my. People this is not a video game. You do not send AC-130s alone unless you do not want them to come back. As a part of a full scale air campaign and or/in coordination with forces on the ground they can be useful. People seem to forget ISIS itself is only a part of the forces involved although they seem to get all the credit. ISIS military leadership is made up of officers from Saddams military it because of them ISIS is a conventional military force. They know enough tatics to deal with lone AC-130s wandering around shooting to crap out of cities with ISIS forces hiding in them. ISIS will fall apart it is only a matter of time.

a reply to: Willtell

What about Libya, it worked there.

You forget there was also ground troops in Libya. Americans just dropped bombs while people from other nations did the ground work.

a reply to: Zaphod58

yes was there. They stayed out in daylight. Should not have.