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Red meat allergy caused by ticks. Extremist Vegan biological warfare?

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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:11 AM
Saw this story being circulated on various news sites this morning. Sorry I'm on my phone, it's very difficult to post links but a a quick Google search should pull it right up.

Apparently an odd allergic reaction has been linked to Lone Star Tick bites. One doctor in New York reported some 200 cases.

In my opinion this would completely crush my warrior spirit. I eat steak 3 to 4 nights a week. I don't know what I would do if I was suddenly allergic to beef.

So my initial thought was this was the first volley in a covert biological attack against red blooded, freedom loving, meat eating Americans by Vegetarian extremists. Or maybe those dirty America hating hippies.

What do you think ATS?
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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:22 AM
I think you're reaching a bit to far on this.

That said, I snipping HATE ticks. With a passion.

When I pluck those nasty bastards off me, the meet a firey death. Burn 'em Danno!

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:28 AM
The cows did it. Evil things, eat them all.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:28 AM
No. Just no. Are you even being serious?

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:30 AM
a reply to: watchitburn

I found their leader!
Spread the word.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:37 AM
Here is an article about it.

Personally, I never liked red meat much since a child, I guess from experience of eating less than tasty beef meals daily as a child.

That said, I recently had an allergic reaction after eating red meat (I never considered meat the possible culprit until now). I eat red meat perhaps once every 3 months as I used to be vegetarian though have suffered anaemia often.

Anyway, my hands, legs, throat swelled and I felt really ill. I didn't go to my GP's as they are often useless, instead taking plenty antihistamine, ibuprofen, aspirin and herbal remedies. The swelling subsided after a few days.

I don't recall ever being bitten by a tick. I am in the UK, which is far from Texas, but I guess there could be similar insects lurking in the UK that causes the same reaction.

Oh, and your comment, was uncalled for.

I don't hate America but I can see it's faults. I am neither ''dirty'' nor a ''hippy''. Nor are any of the people that I know that see the faults of the US.

Perhaps you should know, America is not the be all and end all of everything. It has it's ways, just like everywhere else and sometimes those ways are offensive, just like everywhere else.

Perhaps the most offensive thing about America is it's egocentric views and that it appears that there are so many Americans that can't see the wood for the trees. They think it's okay (it isn't) to be going about calling people names because they don't buy into ''perfect America'' or calling people ''Putin lovers'' when they can see an injustice against Russia or wherever else the good ole US of A decided on declaring war upon. It is a sort of egocentricity that is sort of bewildering to many, seeing as most of the world sees America as the land of brash commercialism instead of a pillar of virtue on which to set standards.

There is international variation. America isn't perfect.


Or maybe those dirty America hating hippies.

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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 08:51 AM
It's not our fellow vegetarians that did this, the Cows orchestrated this. They are crafty creatures.

I get ticks on me quite a bit, walking on my arms, leggs, etc... They are the bigger ticks, not the deer tick usually. I have had a few bite and had to pull them off but usually they don't like the taste of me for some reason anymore. If I knew why this was I would share, but I haven't got a clue. I wish Mosquitoes would let me alone, that I need bug dope for.

It could be because I eat more onions that they don't like me or the fact that I do not drink sugary drinks much anymore. Like I said, I have no way of knowing what changes caused them not to like biting me.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:00 AM
a reply to: watchitburn

As a vegetarian I have to ask, wtf is wrong with you?
Why would you even think this?

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:00 AM
There are more of us with this condition, I'm not sure if its a tick bite or chemicals in the meat. I came down with it in 2001.

Doctors have not been able to tell me what is wrong. They removed my gall bladder and appendix and that did not stop the attacks. I quit going to the DR about 6 years ago cause they couldn't find the problem.

After about 10 years of this happening I was able to link it to meats. After eating some meats, I get hives and my organs feel like they are shutting down. I have blacked out a few times from the pain. Sugar makes my joints hurt and stiff. So I try to eliminate sugar from my diet as well.

I am very careful about the meat I eat. I never buy the cheap or boxed meats. There are others that I know with this problem too.

The small town I live in a lot of young people are getting crippling arthritis. I think all of this is somehow connected. I'm not convinced ticks is the reason. I'm not saying they don't play a part in it but I think that they may be counteracting with certain chemicals in the meats and other foods too.
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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:11 AM
a reply to: RunForTheHills

That sounds feasible, that it's chemicals in meat.

I have often wondered.

We eat ethically sourced meat and organic sometimes but even then I have often felt ill after eating meat. Sort of tired and having fluid retention as well as general malaise.

I do have an allergy to animal hair, it makes my eyes red and sore, and certain other things, like perfumes and latex, so I am perhaps more allergy prone than most. I can't drink tap water since 20 years ago, it gives me instant stomach ache, we drink bottled mineral water.

I also have allergies to certain antibiotics (that's if they even are true antibiotics given that there are fakes everywhere) and we all know meat is full of all sorts of things these days, the animals injected with things, their feed full of chemicals, the water chemical laden.

Every few months we have a detox and eat just fresh fruit and veg, though with a meat loving school child that requires protein and the fact we prefer family meals at the dining table, it isn't easy to sustain the vegetarianism, we have tried. I do feel better when not eating meat, just the iron and protein are an issue. Quorn and TVP etc aren't viable either as they taste awful and also are stomach ache inducing.

I grew up in Scotland and from talking to relatives and friends there, as well as the medical stats, it appears there is a proportionately high amount of IBD there, such as Ulcerative Colitis and Crohns. Typically Scotland eats a lot of red meat, far more than here in the South of England and elsewhere. Perhaps there is also a link to such diseases and red meat.

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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:16 AM

originally posted by: watchitburn
I don't know what I would do if I was suddenly allergic to beef.

Maybe live a longer life with fewer health problems? Oh, the horrors!

ETA: don't worry, there's always bacon.
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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:58 AM
a reply to: watchitburn

So my initial thought was this was the first volley in a covert biological attack against red blooded, freedom loving, meat eating Americans by Vegetarian extremists. Or maybe those dirty America hating hippies.

There's tics in Canada too. And a lot of cattle, and bison. And wild game. Are you saying our tic bites have a different outcome? Only "American" red meat eaters are affected?
I'm thinking that maybe the tics that live on the red meated creatures don't want us eating their favourite meat/travel method.
Blame the tics, not vegan extremists.....

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 10:05 AM
a reply to: theabsolutetruth

I too try and eat organic as much as possible, I do not drink tap water. We have a 200 ft well for our water source. With such a large family to feed it is expensive to eat totally organic in the USA.

I know it is in the foods I eat but my Doctors say "Not". I have avoided the attacks for almost a year now from being very careful what I eat.

I live next to a huge forest and love to explore the forest. so I have been bitten many times by ticks and a few times I have had to go get a shot due to the infection and swelling and plus take a round of antibodics. So I believe ticks may play a part in it but I think it is a reaction to the chemicals in certain foods. I can eat organic beef and not have an attack. so I am thinking its a combination now that the scientist are claiming its from a tick bite.

I have discovered within the last year that if I can get Benedryl in my system to stop the hives that I can avoid the painful attacks. This tid bit of info may help someone else dealing with this problem.

Most people do not know that I have this condition cause its not something you talk about. I know my little brother has developed this condition in the last couple of years too. I'm sure there are lots more people that have this problem that we are not aware of.

How can small town Doctors report it when they do not know what is wrong? I think the number of people with this condition of food allergies is much higher. Not all of us have the same reaction. The sympton's can vary from person to person on how their body reacts to chemicals.

I do not believe our bodies were designed to process chemicals and for this reason, "I think" this is why we are seeing so many young people with so many health problems.

Also the ticks in the USA seem to have been infected with more diseases than other parts of the world. Makes me wonder why our ticks are getting more deadly with each year. Just heard this year there is more deadlier tick in our neck of the woods.

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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 10:45 AM
Was just reading today or yesterday elsewhere about weaponized ticks being dropped on us, possibly from chemtrails, and wouldn't put any of that past them.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 11:02 AM
a reply to: Unity_99
thats just silly......we all know the aliens from Niburu did this.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 11:06 AM
a reply to: blkcwbyhat

Youre post is silly. This world has a lot of high tech, bad guys spoiling the tests for everyone.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 02:45 PM
a reply to: kaylaluv

Nope, no bacon. The article said beef pork and any red meat. I know pork advertises as the "other white meat" but it is included here. Poultry was supposes to be ok, but in some cases depending on how it was processed, it even caused the allergy.

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:16 PM
After reading the article, I would suspect any large tick of being able to cause this allergy or even some others. Parasites with large mouth parts like ticks and bed bugs are good vectors for disease.

The ticks are supposed to bad this year in Michigan. I haven't gotten any on me this year, but I got them all the time working at a park near the river. The ones I was always picking up (and bringing home on my clothes) were mostly wood ticks and possibly some dog ticks and deer ticks. As many as I had on me over the 5 years I worked there, I only got bit twice and removed them before they fully attached and could start to engorge. The black legged tick (deer tick) is the baddie that can give you lyme disease in Michigan.

I've never seen the lone star tick (named after the white dot on it's back) in these parts, but is all over the eastern U.S.

ETA: I thought I should mention that the local media have been quoting "experts" that are saying that it is a "myth" (not true) that a tick will jump down on you from a tree. They obviously have never been out in the woods, because they will jump down 7 or 8 feet from a tree and land on you.

The tick will crawl up plants to attach to animals. Small young ticks only crawl up short plants to get on mice and smaller animals, then as they grow larger they climb higher on large plants for larger hosts. When they have reached their largest size, they will go up trees high enough to attach to deer. I know this is a fact from experience.
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posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:27 PM
a reply to: rickymouse

ticks are horrible little suckers...if you increase your vitamin D intake that should help to keep the mossies off you

posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 10:17 PM
I'm not sure why the ticks could cause antigens to beef. If this is the case, antigens can cause the blood to clump excessively. This causes some of the worst damage. Now, onions contain sulfur compounds that can dampen this clumping of cells. It is something to do with the blood cells getting a charge and sticking together like magnets around a protein I think.

So to lessen the reactions, put onions on your burger and garlic salt on your steak. It won't get rid of all the problems with the antigen, but it will help with part of it.

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