posted on Dec, 4 2004 @ 01:00 PM
A few days ago I was thinking about the discussion I once had with people from America, that said they were proud to be Americans.
I said I did not really understand how you can be proud on being born in a certain country, as noone decides where he/she is born.
Later on people explained that the pride is not about actually "being American", but about being proud about what your ancestors have achieved in a
certain location, in their case being America.
With this thread I want to break the discussion open again, regarding pride. When can you be proud and when can't you?
Some gay people are proud they are gay. Even though they were born gay, and did not choose or ask to be gay, they are trying to make a statement by
saying they are proud to be gay.
Are heterosexuals proud they are heterosexual as well?
The past regarding black people somehow led to the currrent situation where, as a black human being you can say you are proud to be black, but
as a white human being you can't say you are proud to be white, as this somehow suggests being white is "better" than being black.
In general I think the meaning of the word "pride" somehow got lost somewhere in history, when people started using it as a reaction to being
suppressed (gay people, black people), and America got more patrionistic.
I guess the question is, can you be proud about a "situation" or "state" you're put in, instead of something you (or someone you know) has
[edit on 4-12-2004 by Jakko]