NBC news crew threatened with arrest for filming a FEMA camp??

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
It is illegal to film in and around prisons. That has been a long-standing law, because that is how escape attempts get planned. Now this place was just recently closed, but what are the plans for it? Will it will be reopened? Apparently it earned itself the nickname "Camp Walk Away" from the high number of breakouts. Guess that might be why the CO's are still edgy, even after it was just closed.

Who knows maybe they turned it into a blackops rendition site.

good points, all of them.

a reply to: TarzanBeta
So long as no part of the prison was in the shot? I could take from the CO..Im guessing that joe public wouldn't be getting the same scrutiny.
The whole blocking them on the road made it all a bit over the top.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: Bilk22
Please look at bullet number 2 and bullet number 6 at your link.

For the entertainment of those who liked your post for some unknown reason, here is bullet number 2 from your link:

When you are on private property, the property owner may set rules about the taking of photographs. If you disobey the property owner's rules, they can order you off their property (and have you arrested for trespassing if you do not comply).

Going against my better judgement I'll respond once more. They were on a public road and not private property. The building was in clear and open view. The cops were not within their legal rights to demand confiscation of the film. You can write and read. Comprehension is the issue. Re-read the link for a better understanding of the laws and how they apply to this matter.

a reply to: Bilk22

I don't believe it is the laws involved or freedom the press that Tarzan is disputing. What the issue here is the extent some of us have taken this issue.

Fema camps....alphabet agencies...immigrant detention? Give me a break!

A little research disputes all of that nonsense.

Tarzan was saying that some of you (not you) are flippen nuts and need to look for the facts before you jump to ridiculous conclusions.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

Not sure if this is what you believe the thread to be about.

If so that is understandable, I get that the whole FEMA camp thing has been "debunked"

However for me, I have a high level of distrust for those who control the US, they have demonstrated by their actions that they are intent upon bringing about some form of social upheaval.

The militarization of the police force is one example, the patriot act is another, NDAA another good one.

The powers given to FEMA are of great concern as well, unless you believe they have pure intentions. For me the way they handled Katrina kind of exposed their true agenda.

Doublepost

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
It is illegal to film in and around prisons. That has been a long-standing law, because that is how escape attempts get planned.

That's silly, a simple google search gives you a dozen pictures of the prison from ariel view. Yes, active prisons are tight on security and won't allow people to film up at the gates or will question people showing suspicious behaviour around the facility, but this is totally different.

As far as film crews... Hollywood pictures get filmed all the time without government security. I have been around the sets of plenty by accident, and never experienced anything like that.

Odd. To say the least.


More likely tied to redevelopment of the site:

Health care, tourism, recreation or a casino are all feasible reuses for the Mount McGregor Correctional Facility property, after the prison closes in July, according to a recent Empire State Development Corp. report.

“The greatest unknown for repurposing this site is not the uses that the site can handle; it is the interest from the private market,” the report concludes.

There are “no land use feasibility issues” with any of those four types of uses, but maintaining a campus like setting would likely be necessary in order to reuse the existing buildings, because most of the buildings are connected with a steam tunnel heating system, the report stated.

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Which begs the question... What sort of private industry is so anal about a news crew stumbling around the site? Chances are the video being shot wasn't for a hollywood film, but instead a corporate video getting footage of the potential ________, whatever it's going to be.

a reply to: boncho

It is quite an odd situation. However some people are satisfied with the whole security guarding film crew explanation.

Thank you for the information you are sharing, it is good questing, what sort of private industry could they be speaking of?

I am sure they never planned on getting the attention they are now getting!

I would relate this directly to the RT thread on the front page.

Just a way for NBC to come out smelling like a rose and garnering favor from the huge demographic of conspiracy theorists who have interest in FEMA camps. FEMA camps isn't even a "mainstream" news topic... it's completely an internet topic. If this isn't proof that news outlets aren't desperate to get your attention, I don't know what is.

And once again the conspiracy here is completely missed and the emphasis is put on FEMA camps and whether they exist or not and whether NBC should have been threatened or not (of course it would only turn out that it was completely unjustified! what other opinion could you have of this? this is how ONE sided this story is intended to be.)

NBC is attention wh*ring, to put it very simply and plainly.

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: boncho

I am sure they never planned on getting the attention they are now getting!

Oohhh yes they did. This validates my previous post exactly. Your thought is ^this, but the truth is they know their demo and it's you, it's me, it's this forum and community.

This was so planned.

Forget NBC. Funny how everybody hates MSM until they start singing them lovely songs they like to hear.. lalalala fema camps lalalala The exact same tactic RT has been banking on from the beginning and now that the cat's obviously out of the bag with them... people aren't accepting it wrapped in Russian wrapping paper anymore, now American news outlets will have to openly cover conspiracy type topics to keep people tuned in.

It's pathetic and just shows how weak their ratings are anymore. If only people would even quit looking at the headlines, then they would be screwed. Once people stop caring what the news says and stops looking, there's no need anymore to keep up the act.

a reply to: sheepslayer247

I work security at a hospital that is about the size of a prison with a LOT more expensive stuff....we have 35 guards total, no more than 11 on at once.

a reply to: celerygeneral

You raise a great point! Well multiple great points!

Maybe it is that simple, I like this view as well. Simply NBC going after ratings!

When it comes to the prison industry nothing would surprise me at this point, when it comes to FEMA's power and what they are up to, again nothing would surprise me at this point. Question still remains why is there that many employees at a closed down prison?

When it comes to the MSM whores, nothing would surprise me at this point. I like your advice, stop looking at their headlines, typically I do not pay attention to NBC anything so perhaps they got me as you have stated! Bastards

Just wondering,

Is it normal for guards to drive a Lexus?

Where I live (The Netherlands) a Lexus is a luxury car, in the high price range,

I find it curious that two guards show up in those expensive cars.

Or is that normal in America?

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
It is under tight security because they are shooting a film there.

From your source:

With prisoners vacated, the only people on the grounds were a movie crew and corrections staff. Why the super secrecy?

Cool! Did you get a chance to find out what movie is being filmed there? I love prison movies. The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, Papillon, Cool Hand Luke, Life. Oh cant forget The Count of Monte Cristo, that is, if that even "counts" as a prison movie...

Anyway, please let us know any details you can find about this film. Even a documentary could be very interesting. Does anybody live in the area? Someone should just walk up there and ask what movie they are making. Or just drive around in the general vicinity until you are stopped by a roadblock... Hey you might see a celebrity!

originally posted by: EartOccupant
Just wondering,

Is it normal for guards to drive a Lexus?

Where I live (The Netherlands) a Lexus is a luxury car, in the high price range,

I find it curious that two guards show up in those expensive cars.

Or is that normal in America?

Lexus is not a luxury car. It tries to be a luxury car. The pieces used in the Lexus, especially in the interior of the vehicles, are darn near useless.

Mercedes makes luxury cars. Maserati does. Toyota, at least commercially, does not.

Anyone can buy a used Lexus for a few thousand dollars. I'm sorry that they advertise to you where you live that Lexus is some kind of special vehicle. It's not. If you see people driving 1990-2005 Honda Accords in your area, consider those the more fortunate souls.

a reply to: 3n19m470

Yes, I live in the area.

Recently there was a celebrity sighting. It was Sheryl Crow. She was hanging out at a small amusement park which is actually in its last season and will be closing down soon. The news had her plastered on the local pages as well.

Who knows, maybe Sheryl Crow was out and about because she became a guest star in The Walking Dead and the prison seemed like a fine place to film another season?

That would be very interesting, wouldn't it?

As for poster Bilk: I think yer funny. I like it when you talk. You make me laugh. (Read that in your best redneck voice in order to recreate the level of understanding that I believe is present here. Make sure to read the words slowly and also draw out the "u" sounds for extra flavor, making sure to use more of a french "u" and not a 'Murican "ew".)

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Bilk22

I don't believe it is the laws involved or freedom the press that Tarzan is disputing. What the issue here is the extent some of us have taken this issue.

Fema camps....alphabet agencies...immigrant detention? Give me a break!

A little research disputes all of that nonsense.

Tarzan was saying that some of you (not you) are flippen nuts and need to look for the facts before you jump to ridiculous conclusions.

This guy. Everybody loves this guy!

Thanks, sheepslayer247. It's nice to finally meet another form of intelligence. It's a wild world out here - in Outer Space.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Bilk22

I don't believe it is the laws involved or freedom the press that Tarzan is disputing. What the issue here is the extent some of us have taken this issue.

Fema camps....alphabet agencies...immigrant detention? Give me a break!

A little research disputes all of that nonsense.

Tarzan was saying that some of you (not you) are flippen nuts and need to look for the facts before you jump to ridiculous conclusions.

Well he injected some of hisown conspiracy into it by suggesting the news crew could be some ruse -

There are crazy people out there who can't wait to get their hands on celebrities. There are also crazy people out there who want an opportunity to kill certain people. There are also crazy people out there who just want to find a way to dance in front of any camera available. And crazy people do much worse things than these. However, legally the news crew was supposed to obtain permission from the Department of Corrections in order to be able to film any aspect of that prison. The reason should be clear for the technologically and the legally informed: It is entirely possible that News Channel 13's van was stolen. It is entirely possible that the crew are not the people, in reality, that they claim to represent. It should also be noted that the film crew inside the prison, regardless of what kind of film crew you think they were, had a right to the footage they were shooting/enacting/re-enacting.

Now that not only sounds conspiratorial, but the corrections officer and police didn't suggest any of this nor ask for ID to determine the news crews identity.

Bilk22,

The reason I said those things was to show how ridiculous it is to play the conspiracy theory game.

That was the point.

Please forgive me for seeming harsh. I do not want you to hurt. However, I do think you're missing every single point that I made.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: vonclod

They were allowed to film the cottage. Not the prison. That's the point.

But that's the point I was making in my last post, that picture in my last post IS the prison as it was before it became a prison, the link I gave in another post shows heaps of pictures of the prison...they're all over the place.