posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 03:31 AM
INTRO: She was only eleven years old but Sally remembers being a young strong man many years ago. She remembers growing up in England. She could
describe the home she had lived in. She could even recall her name back then.... it was David. She talked about her previous life, about her family
back then and how she dies in war back in WWII. She even remembered the street she lived on. Eventually her parents check into Sally's claim and sure
enough everything she told her parents were true! The house, the soldier that had died etc....
We have all heard various stories like the one I describe above. Who would not be interested, right?
So my question is very simple. To those of us that believe in a physical resurrection....... which one comes back at the resurrection? Does Sally come
back or David? Only one person can come back so which one is it? Sally or David? Two bodies claiming to have the same spirit... over two life times
however both bodies can not be resurrected with the same spirit.
The title of this thread says it all. I know many people will disagree but first hear me out. This thread will be hard to stay on topic so my
apologies to anyone whom I remind to stay on topic. As we all know there are those at ATS who love to derail any thread that they disagree with by
going off into another areas that is not part of this discussion.
This topic could easily turn into a few books so as the thread grows I will add to this thread while remaining on subject. At times there will be
references (books, authors, Youtube videos etc...) that will discuss this topic but other topics as well. I am only interested in what the authors say
about this one topic. So please do not be misled.
In my opinion I believe it is essential to understand this topic. You should do your own research and you too will find the answers. To those who do
not believe in the resurrection or in God and his promises this subject might help you in understanding life and death which could lead you to God.
Maybe?? Seek and you shall find.
I think first there should be some guidelines to this thread by definition. According to Abrahamic religion, the soul is the immortal essence of a
person or living thing. So this means the Jews, Muslims and Christians believe they have an immortal spirit inside them. That is a lot people with
different religious practices and beliefs BUT they all believe to have an immortal spirit.
A human has the following attributes:
1. A human body.
2. A mind. (your thinking capabilities.....your brain)
3. A soul - also known as "spirit" (an exact copy of yourself inside you but in spirit form - immortal)
I understand there are many who believe that at time of death it is all over. Silence, .....sleeping whatever. BUT then Sally says something like
above. So without getting religious ...... Sally has proved (like thousands of others who have had similar experiences) have and did DEBUNK those who
believe at time of death there is nothing. So for those hard liners out there Sally has basically proven that there is life after death otherwise
where did the memories come from? Right. HOWEVER Sally thinks she lived those past experiences when in reality she was shown these memories. I will
expand on this a little in this thread however it is a different topic I will discuss in an upcoming thread.
So my belief - Once your human body shuts down and dies your spirit separates itself from the body. The immortal spirit is not to remain inside a dead
body. The spirit that separates has all of your personal traits, feelings, memories etc... Basically it is you but in spirit form.
Since the human body is not immortal it must be something else that is immortal and this is what I call the soul or spirit. For future reference in
this thread I will use the term "spirit" so not to confuse anyone by what I am talking about.
So the human spirit is unique to each human - individually made for that person - otherwise we would all feel the same, think the same, speak the same
language possibly (we did at one time) and react the same to each situation.
Nowhere within the Abrahamic religions does it show us that our spirits are recycled as some believe and it does not make sense does it? We are all
held accountable for our actions both in this world and in the spiritual world. Most of us know right from wrong - thou there are those who refuse or
better yet know but do not accept what is right or wrong - mans pride and arrogance.
There are those who believe that we keep coming back for new experiences etc.... because Sally (an innocent) has proven there was a man named David
who lived on a particular street in England who died during WWII but that still does not prove that Sally's soul was involved. Is it not possible she
was shown these things, experienced certain false feelings and emotions convincing her she was David?
To make things worse there are those who do not believe in NDE'S but yet believe the human spirits are recycled for new experiences etc....
This is clearly contradiction designed to confuse those from the truth.
So tell me why do you believe in reincarnation?