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Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 04:35 AM
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originally posted by: SubTruth

originally posted by: VoidHawk
You gotta hand it to him, thats an ace response



It is amazing just how blind people really are. Let me put things in perspective for everyone saying go Russia.


The best judge of how a country is really doing is the cost of food in relation to income %. Russians are at 38% American are at 8%. When this figure reaches 40% history has shown people revolt in mass. And all this idiot did was make the cost of food even more expensive.

Maybe Putin has already made arrangements to ensure that doesn't happen, so lets wait and see before we all start insulting each other.


originally posted by: SubTruth
But I am sure people will keep believing the lies being put forward by good old RT......LIES.....LIES......LIES.
So show me a media source that isn't ......LIES.....LIES......LIES
The best we can do is look at as many sources as we can and try to make some sense out of all the...LIES




posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 04:45 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
Yeah..erm...so let me get this straight...
Putin has decided to ultimately starve his people in order to mildly annoy some farmers outside of Russia.

And some dip-hi-s on ats think Putin is super duper clever for this move...

Interesting...but, it is politics on ATS..it never really did make a lot of sense


This bears repeating again.

Gold!



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: ressiv

the only good effect is that the western foodbanks will have plenty food supply's for there hunger starving citicens


Small comfort to starving Russians.

Russia ban all agriculture trade with the US and fruits and vegetables from the EU. Putin has moved beyond the line from the Hunt for Red October. For Putin this is personal.. Its about Putin verse the west and not Russia verse the west. Putin is willing to risk Russias future for his own personal agenda.
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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:11 AM
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Good on Putin I say but does this mean Europe will get all that GMO food dumped on our markets and then told by the USA behind closed doors that we must eat it or else.


originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: Hellas

I hope he will switch it off... In a week all "political" views will disappear and Europe will obey Putin...


Not as eas as that because we have an occupations force all over europe and we need to remove the american military bases from our land to be free of the USA and also stop the banker bribes from Isreal that pays our politicians a lot more then they pick up in wage packets.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard


Good on Putin I say but does this mean Europe will get all that GMO food dumped on our markets and then told by the USA behind closed doors that we must eat it or else.


That depends on where in Europe you live. The trend has been for GMOs to be banned for human consumption in the EU. Consult your local legislation for details.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

What do you think the fall out would be if Europe opts to stop food trades, ALL food trades, with Russia? Japan just recently sanctioned Russia and the occupiers in Crimea, bringing their position inline with the current sanctions in place.


You guys keep talking about other places to get this or that yet you dont bother to think about the possibility of that nation refusing to trade with Russia / sell them the items they need that were lost in the sanctions.

As has been stated, Putins actions are all based on the concept Putin can get the items somewhere else. That source is not a guarantee.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:21 AM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard

Not as eas as that because we have an occupations force all over europe and we need to remove the american military bases from our land to be free of the USA and also stop the banker bribes from Isreal that pays our politicians a lot more then they pick up in wage packets.


Russian occupation army or?



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:26 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

Exactly what GMO food did Russia import anyway?


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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:31 AM
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a reply to: SubTruth

last time i checked i spent about 25% of my budget on food. ishop around, only buy off brands, and i make 3 dollars over minimum wage. maybe your 8 percent came from propaganda..... and maybe we the people are alot closer to hitting the streets than you would like to think.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:32 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


Russian occupation army or?


VirusGuard never makes it clear who "we" are. I think "we" are supposed to be America or the EU. He really needs to be more specific.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: fixitwcw

Reread what he said.

Cost of food in relation to income percentage, not what percentage of income spent on food


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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 05:45 AM
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People saying Russians are going to go hungry is a laugh, cant wait to repost some of these posters in a month or so.

Other sources are already lining up to supply Russia. Plenty of articles all over the internet. Meanwhile several EU countries are throwing their toys out of the cot for Brussels talking on behalf of them. This will slide some countries back into recession as Italy announced today.

In short, the EU and US are happy to sanction Russia but as soon as Russia does it they start to cry.

Reports today say that Brazil and Turkey and pushing hard to get the new market share. I am sorry but its all supply and demand. Economics 101.

As I said earlier ... American and EU are not the only suppliers of "food" in the world.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: Reinmax


Reports today say that Brazil and Turkey and pushing hard to get the new market share. I am sorry but its all supply and demand. Economics 101.


Exactly what I have been trying to explain: Russia's demand is inflexible: if the people do not eat, they will revolt. This has happened several times in Russia's history. The countries that have surplus food can choose to sell to whomever they wish. Russia will need to pay whatever price the sellers ask, and the sellers know that Russia has no other options. The situation is perfect for price gouging. Russia might not starve, but it's going to take some pain in the pocketbook.

Edit to add: Yes, let's meet here again in November.


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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Reinmax


Reports today say that Brazil and Turkey and pushing hard to get the new market share. I am sorry but its all supply and demand. Economics 101.


Exactly what I have been trying to explain: Russia's demand is inflexible: if the people do not eat, they will revolt. This has happened several times in Russia's history. The countries that have surplus food can choose to sell to whomever they wish. Russia will need to pay whatever price the sellers ask, and the sellers know that Russia has no other options. The situation is perfect for price gouging. Russia might not starve, but it's going to take some pain in the pocketbook.

Edit to add: Yes, let's meet here again in November.



You are saying that Russians wont be able to eat by November. I am saying that just because Russian does not import from Canada, EU and US it dosent mean Russians cant eat. There are many more countries than the EU and US.

As said ... today brazil said it will step in on poultry, new zealnd and argentina on milk products.

So .... I will mark this post for November and lets repost this actual quote and see who is right. I doubt that Russians cannot eat and there is a revolt by November. Infact Putin has never been more popular. Russians aren't stupid my friend



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Reinmax


Reports today say that Brazil and Turkey and pushing hard to get the new market share. I am sorry but its all supply and demand. Economics 101.


Exactly what I have been trying to explain: Russia's demand is inflexible: if the people do not eat, they will revolt. This has happened several times in Russia's history. The countries that have surplus food can choose to sell to whomever they wish. Russia will need to pay whatever price the sellers ask, and the sellers know that Russia has no other options. The situation is perfect for price gouging. Russia might not starve, but it's going to take some pain in the pocketbook.

Edit to add: Yes, let's meet here again in November.



ALso, according to the latest articles, there is good competition to supply Russian including EU contries willing to break rank

So using your logic, when companies start cutting stuff in the EU and people lose their jobs and start to vote against current governments... is America going to pick up the tab? I didn't think so...

How much debt is the land of the free?
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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: Reinmax


You are saying that Russians wont be able to eat by November. I am saying that just because Russian does not import from Canada, EU and US it dosent mean Russians cant eat. There are many more countries than the EU and US.


Do not misrepresent what I have been saying. Nowhere do I say that the Russians will not be able to eat by November. The Russian government keeps a three month reserve of basic foodstocks. The government can release this onto the market to allow Russian corporations to say nyet to countries who try to overcharge them, while keeping the price of food for the consumers down. When these reserves begin to be exhausted, the importers will be forced to pay much, much more and the price of food for consumers will skyrocket. This is precisely the sort of "price shock" that American consumers feel at the gas pump when things get bad in the Arabian Gulf. The price of fuel stays relatively stable as the reserves are released, then the price suddenly spikes.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: Reinmax


ALso, according to the latest articles, there is good competition to supply Russian including EU contries willing to break rank


Of course! This will be the greatest "seller's market" of the 21st Century!


(post by Reinmax removed for a manners violation)

posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: Reinmax


Wait ... You said that Russians would go hungry and rise up against the government by November and Putin is over thrown and YAY TEAM AMERICA. I will post just that in November "Mr DJW001" Am I wrong? Nice to see you have edited comments.


Please link to where I said any of that, or retract the statement and apologize.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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No way, you edited your comments and I will leave it up to the judgements of the moderators which have the history. Next time stand by your trolling.




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