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Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:08 PM
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Putin does this so hopefully Europe will wise/wake up and stop these silly sanctions and stop listening to US wishes.
At least Putin is giving them a change...




posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Hellas


Russia's meat self sufficiency grew from 72% in 2012 to 76% in 2013


Which means that they can only meet 3/4 of the demand! The price of meat will rise 24%. (The way you quote a 4% rise in a productivity statistic is very old school, Comrade.)



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

They can get (most of) their products from other country's, Turkey, Africa, etc etc etc.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: Plugin
a reply to: DJW001

They can get (most of) their products from other country's, Turkey, Africa, etc etc etc.

South America.

They have a trade mission there, now, looking to boost business between BRIC, and BRIC's satellite nations.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:16 PM
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You have to feel sorry for the Russians. You have a leader making your life worse who just keeps making one bad choice after another. And if your Russian your not even allowed to complain about it because the media that was not Government controled has been shut down, you can not blog or post on social networks negative anymore and you can not even have a march like these poor people in Siberia who want to get the hell out of train wreck that is the Russian Federation. Russia bans Siberia Independance march I guess that means Putin does not have to try and pretend that gaining Crimea that they will have to keep heavily garrisoned so it does break free again some how makes up for a now shrinking economy, global isolation and now coming soon high food prices with a dash of shortages tossed in. I know the Russians are used to living crappy, repressed lives but, at some point this has just got to get old for them.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: DJW001




The way you quote a 4% rise in a productivity statistic is very old school, Comrade.


Yea well that's aprox. 30 million people



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: Plugin
a reply to: DJW001

They can get (most of) their products from other country's, Turkey, Africa, etc etc etc.


...and if not, they wouldn`t have done it.

But if you`re anti-Putin, you need to have an angle that this is bad for him...make no mistake, no action done by Putin can be good by some over here.
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Yea but if you understand russians they are like patriots, they got destroyed once almost and suffered allot with the cold war (and suffered allot in ww2) and now they feel again as they are being attacked (economical) so they will (and it's a bit scary) do anything to stand up and follow Putin blindly (their great leader).

So again these sanctions from the West are stupid and kinda dangerous, what's good about those sanctions the west gave?? Maybe good in the eyes of some US leaders, I don't know, maybe they just don't like a strong Russia (a power) they have to deal with on geo-politics and so on.. so time to weakening them, instead building stronger relations.. no no that's so hard!! better start a new (cold) war, just what the world/common people needs.


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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien


...and if not, they wouldn`t have done it.


Of course they can get it elsewhere... more expensively. Remember how China screwed Russia over the natural gas deal?



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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The US spent more just on bolts to take out the USSR for several decades.
This will have almost no impact on the US, in fact,
in the long run, anything Russia does as far as trying sanctions,
will only strengthen the US economy.

We never relied on Russia for anything,
never needed anything from them,
and if a cold war II goes into full swing,
it will do nothing but hurt Russia.

None of this is in Russia's best interest.
I am sure Putin is well aware of this fact.
In an economic war, even at our most broke,
we have more than Russia does.

This could however help Russia to spur on it's own economy since it will have to find replacements for items sanctioned.
I am all for that.

I don't want any country to suffer,
Russia included.

The entire thing is a sad situation. From the beginning with the Ukraine, and now sanctions, and re-emergence of the cold war, we will again sit on the brink of nuclear holocaust.

IMO



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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Gotta love it honestly. Even the UK doesn't allow some of the chemicals pushed in American food.

Even without the sanctions - One could not blame Putin. He also does not like GMO's. Bad news for US poisons indeed.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Hellas


No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.



You once again missed the point by ignoring facts.

The history of Russia is replete with food shortages and famine. Russia, just like other countries, have been experiencing large droughts. In Russia's case their wheat production has been suffering.

Food is one of those areas where buyer can be found for surplus. Since we export and Russia does not, please explain the benefits of Russia's actions?


I think (though haven't verified) that Russia at this point in time can produce enough food to feed those in it's borders. Modern agriculture is vastly different than it was. And even if it can't, it won't have any problem importing extra from South America, most of which is BRIC aligned and fed up with American imperialism.

Or, it can march into Ukraine. So, in that aspect, perhaps it's a chess move to motivate it's own public. Not so different than our own government does. Create a problem, sell the solution. But we shall have to wait and see on that. Russia will not, however, have any real food shortage. Worst case, meat prices rise.

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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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Putin is just digging himself a deeper grave tbh...

What's most amusing about this is the Putin fans loving the fact Putin is dumb enough to play ball

Every push back from Putin, edges him & Russia closer and closer to the edge Of the cliff top... While they may affect the west in someway shape or form the damage he is doing to him self and Russia is far greater, he's effectively determine and defiant to bite of the hand that has been feeding him...

Russia has already lost over 200,000 billion, the ruble is already down 11% company's are going bust all over Russia! there are 26,000 Russians stranded abroad because of travel company's going bust, and now Russia faces food stamps and rations

He'll no doubt get RT to blame the west for this when the reporters are interviewing starving Russians in mile long cues, similar in a way that Palestine lines targets with human shields and cries to the international community's foul play and war crimes




posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 08:07 PM
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I think (though haven't verified) that Russia at this point in time can produce enough food to feed those in it's borders.


Russia cannot feed itself. It imports 40% of its food. Russians will be paying much, much more to feed themselves in the near future.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: pirhanna

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Hellas


No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.



You once again missed the point by ignoring facts.

The history of Russia is replete with food shortages and famine. Russia, just like other countries, have been experiencing large droughts. In Russia's case their wheat production has been suffering.

Food is one of those areas where buyer can be found for surplus. Since we export and Russia does not, please explain the benefits of Russia's actions?


I think (though haven't verified) that Russia at this point in time can produce enough food to feed those in it's borders. Modern agriculture is vastly different than it was. And even if it can't, it won't have any problem importing extra from South America, most of which is BRIC aligned and fed up with American imperialism.

Or, it can march into Ukraine. So, in that aspect, perhaps it's a chess move to motivate it's own public. Not so different than our own government does. Create a problem, sell the solution. But we shall have to wait and see on that. Russia will not, however, have any real food shortage. Worst case, meat prices rise.


Probably Russia could source food from elsewhere but then sanctions will be imposed on them as a result, what we are about to see happen over the next couple of years is "pick a Team" tactic... Side with Russia stick with them, and all ties will be cut with you also... How much do these other countries coming to Russia's aid also rely on the west?

The world will drastically change should Putin continue breaking international law and violate Ukraine's national integrity, Russia and her worshipers and followers across the world will be left with there small slice of cake to eat it in confinement

It will be called the United States of failed states a slightly larger North Korea if you like cut of from the civilised world
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: Hellas

and by banning some food imports, exactly how is Russia going to feed the cattle?



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Darkblade71

US agriculture trade with Russia is about 1.6 billion a year.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: pirhanna


I think (though haven't verified) that Russia at this point in time can produce enough food to feed those in it's borders.


Russia cannot feed itself. It imports 40% of its food. Russians will be paying much, much more to feed themselves in the near future.



Not to mention BRICS cannot do anything to offset the shortage. People are placing way to much faith in BRICS. It is estimated it will take 2 decades if not longer for BRICS to become a usable entity. That estimate is based on there being no wars during that time not to mention the world economy stabilizing.

BRICS is trade only. It is not political nor military.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: TritonTaranis

Where can Russia source it from? China pretty much has the African continent locked up for their food supplies.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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So he robs his own people of nutrients and it will jack up their price to get the same commodities. While not a win for poultry farms in the US and veggies in the UK, it will be a windfall for consumers, as the glut will cause the prices to go down to where they should be anyway.



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