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Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

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posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

No, I am furious that Putin's monomania is causing some of the worst suffering in Eastern Europe since the collapse of the Soviet Empire, and that some people in the West have allowed their anger at their own government to lead them to believe the lies eminating from Moscow. This is a report from a Russian news source. It says that the Russian people are losing confidence because of the effects of Putin's policies. Something has to give.




posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

You now what the sad thing is, I actual stand up for your family and friends.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

You now what the sad thing is, I actual stand up for your family and friends.


No, you keep defending their chief oppressor.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

No, I attack the ones who are really doing it, you keep defending them.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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Grains, sunflowers and beets. Those are the staple crops in Russia. Not very appetizing. I too, feel sorry for the people who will indeed suffer, and lack nutrients because of the massive ego of their leader. They apparently do, however support him, or he does in any case seem to have a lot of support.

I guess they can go back to beet soup, beet salad, beet juice, and beet pie again, as they have done in the past. I suppose they can have plenty of sugar from Cuba.

There was a time in Russia, when there were teenagers who had never even seen an orange. (Same with Iran.)

The Russians are strong, good, hardworking people. Stubborn as hell. I hate this skinny plate for them.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Its going to get bad have relatives there and even they are worried.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

No, I attack the ones who are really doing it, you keep defending them.


Please explain how a series of policy decisions that has had these results are good for the Russian people.



posted on Dec, 14 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

- Putin and ex-KGB`ers taking over from Western backed oligarchs at the turn of the century

- Neocons convinced they have to follow Brzezinski`s The Grand Chess Board; thus to make sure US keeps World hegemony the tri-alliance Iran/Russia/China needs to be broken up, no great power can exist in Eurasia, Ukraine is the pivot to breaking up Russia and to control the centre (in chess you have to control the centre) and China can only be controlled with not a strong power next to it (Russia)

- Make war with Russia by Chechnya and Georgia

- Libya ally of Russia being attacked, pissing The Kremlin off that greatly that they send a big warning about Syria

- The West helping out in overthrowing the Ukraine, another ally, right at the border of Russia

- Trying to block Russia from being able to sell gas to Europe by trying to topple Assad, trying to develop shale gas extraction in eastern Ukraine, development of the Crimea gas deposits and making at a later stage Azerbaijan gas available to Europe

And so you see, the policy to keep Russia economically weak is the only policy which is viable for the neocons to keep World hegemony for the US...and by so it would not have mattered which decisions The Kremlin would have made, unless they would have surrendered to the neocons to being plundered of the natural resources...ordinary Russians will either way suffer...sociopaths don`t care about common people, all they care about its their own little power-trip.
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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Big flaw in your theory Russia is no threat the US is concerned with China not Russia. Policy on Russia is simple let Europe handle it. In case you hadn't noticed Obama could care less he's doing the minimum possible. He's simply saying what Putin did to Ukraine is unexceptable and seems to be tryo ng to shame Putin. But that's the extent and as far as he's willing to go.

When he made the changed US policy to Asia he isn't looking back. He's more than happy to let Germany take the lead. If he was concerned US troops would be there providing support all ready he has had plenty of Provacation to do so. Obama has no foreign policy and you even see It in the state department. Last thing he needs is a fight to break out hell cause his party to lose election.

As far as Syria all he has to do is set back because no matier how it plays out it hurts russia. US has no skin in the game thus it's mediocre response by the aadministration.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:47 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

There`s no flaw in it...

Zbigniew Brzezinski – The Grand Chessboard

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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

None of which is actually recommended by Brzezinski on the page you link to. All he says there is that Eurasia is important.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

There`s no flaw in it...

Zbigniew Brzezinski – The Grand Chessboard

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Better reread it he isn't supporting your theory at all in fact quite the oposit Russia is irrelevant. Low population with limited production capacity



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 10:04 AM
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The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski – More Quotes



"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55)

"Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)


Source



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski – More Quotes



"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55)

"Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)


Source


I'm assuming English is a second language all that says Is Russia is trying to force itself on its neighbors. And this could cause a problem with independence in the region. You know like when Russia invades ukraine or Georgia for example.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

You completely disregard everything which he wrote about US needing to control the centre and no other powerful force which can be allowed to reside over there, and if that`s perfectly clear to someone who has English as his third language, it should be to someone who has it as its main language.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

You completely disregard everything which he wrote about US needing to control the centre and no other powerful force which can be allowed to reside over there, and if that`s perfectly clear to someone who has English as his third language, it should be to someone who has it as its main language.


And Russia also needs to control the center. Ideally, balance is maintained. Russia's seizure of Crimea has disturbed the balance and the United States will necessarily respond, though possibly not until after the next presidential.election.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

You completely disregard everything which he wrote about US needing to control the centre and no other powerful force which can be allowed to reside over there, and if that`s perfectly clear to someone who has English as his third language, it should be to someone who has it as its main language.


And Russia also needs to control the center. Ideally, balance is maintained. Russia's seizure of Crimea has disturbed the balance and the United States will necessarily respond, though possibly not until after the next presidential.election.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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Blaming Russia is the easy way out. How long will that work?


Just as it is when blaming the US for everything bad in the world.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

With Russia getting more powerful it controls it, hence Russia won`t be allowed to be prosperous.

So it has nothing to do with what The Kremlin decides or does, Russia isn`t allowed to become prosperous which is why the excuse to attack Russia economically would have happened anyway and has nothing to do with whatever action Putin and the rest of The Kremlin have done.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

With Russia getting more powerful it controls it, hence Russia won`t be allowed to be prosperous.

So it has nothing to do with what The Kremlin decides or does, Russia isn`t allowed to become prosperous which is why the excuse to attack Russia economically would have happened anyway and has nothing to do with whatever action Putin and the rest of The Kremlin have done.


You really don't get the whole international relations thing, do you? The world economy is not a zero sum game as imperialists want you to believe; Liberal Democracy bases its international economic thought on Ricardo's theory of comparative advantage. Russia can produce natural gas inexpensively and sell it to Europe, which, along with the United States, can produce better consumer goods like cars and televisions than Russia can. The money Russia makes by selling gas is then used by Russians to purchase these consumer goods. Balance is maintained. When Russia decided to seize Crimea in order to prevent Ukraine from competing with its energy sales, it unbalanced things; conflict is the result.



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