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Aliens = Angels and Demons or Angels and Demons = Aliens?

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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 03:10 AM
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In the Bible and the Book of Enoch

We see that Angels and Demons are not from Earth.

Demons were cast down to Earth

Angels sometimes visit Earth

By default that makes Angels and Demons ------- Aliens

After all, they are not originally from Earth. That is the definition of alien.......

Not the little green men kind though

The extra dimensional kind. The normally unseen kind.

I think it is interesting how many threads pop up saying "they aren't angels and demons. They are aliens." Or something to that effect. Like they are mutually exclusive.

Even more interesting is we see that demons who left their estate (place of dwelling - not in our 4 dimensions) in Genesis being described in the Book of Enoch as giving technological knowledge about how to make weapons, jewelry, and make up to humans knowing we would misuse the knowledge. God condemned them for it, along with breeding to create Nephillim (who a lot of people claim are the Greek gods. "Mighty men of renown" in Genesis). Genetic corruption, flood, etc... came after.

Now there are a lot of people running around claiming aliens give us technology. There is a mountain of evidence that the rulers of this Earth are covering SOMETHING up, whatever that something is.

Interesting to me. Well, they wouldn't even have to leave their estate to give us knowledge of technology, it just so happens they did when they did.

But looking at all the knowledge we gain - how much of it is misused to the detriment of the majority of the human race? All of it, it seems. Hard for us to understand that living in 1st world countries, but most of the world is in destitute poverty and all-encompassing oppression. Then Jesus said the meek will inherit the Earth, warned about rich people, always talked about how much cooler poor people are etc...sounds like what God's Son would say to me




posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 03:42 AM
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Very interesting topic.

Have you watched this?.... Fascinating theory on the book of Enoch and the relationship to the modern Aliens.



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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

Aliens ARE in fact demonic in nature, how is that you might ask? It's simple really, most if not all aliens are depicted as having 3 fingers which of course mocks the trinity, during some paranormal/ghost investigations, people are scratched and 99% of the time the scratches are in groups of three (mocking of the trinity again)

From my that point of view and the considered information both are entwined to be demonic IMO. One could go into further details regarding the matter, but most seem to overlook that simple but yet major fact.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: ArchangelOger
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

Aliens ARE in fact demonic in nature, how is that you might ask? It's simple really, most if not all aliens are depicted as having 3 fingers which of course mocks the trinity, during some paranormal/ghost investigations, people are scratched and 99% of the time the scratches are in groups of three (mocking of the trinity again)

From my that point of view and the considered information both are entwined to be demonic IMO. One could go into further details regarding the matter, but most seem to overlook that simple but yet major fact.



That is a simple theory (one I have not heard before, not sure I believe that about mocking the trinity, but what do I know) but I have to say there is much more compelling evidence than just the amount of fingers they have.

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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 04:22 AM
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Another reason they will not come down and say hi....some of us will scream Demon in their face.
Granted we do not know If they will be nice but demons? nope....It is just the fact that when we do make contact the religions around the world will be in disarray and will scream demon to try and save any face.
Disgusting really we have not even made contact and some have already written them off.
I sure hope the believers are not the ones making that first contact.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 04:38 AM
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None of the ancient astronaut theorists know # all about ancient civilizations. When they say that gods came from the heavens they mean literally a spiritual realm - they claimed birds live in the heavens too. The Sumerians and Babylonians believed that the world was INSIDE a sphere, and that in the distance the mountains touched the sky. There were some tablets that said the stars were something ridiculous like 23 miles away from the ground.

Alien by definition would be a physical being in our physical dimension - and you should research the mathematics in how improbable it would be for beings to evolve in some form we could comprehend on some distant planet, let alone develop technology to breach that planets gravity, let alone have a ship that could travel for lightyears, IF their physical bodies could even live long enough to travel that far!

Extra-dimensional beings by definition would be more likely as per the theoretical ease that they 'phase' out of sight - according to claims which are nothing more than conjecture, anyhow. So many people have said they've seen aliens. What they really mean is lights in the sky. You have no way of knowing if it is a 'ship' at such distance, and even if it was, you have no way of knowing who if ANYONE is piloting it.

I think a more likely explanation is that if flying saucers exist, they are fully human technology, and those people in the know suppress knowledge of it because, they can get away with anything. If it only takes 10 minutes to fly across the world in an electromagnetic powered craft, who will be a slave to the oil industry?



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon




Aliens = Angels and Demons or Angels and Demons = Aliens?

None of the above , Aliens are other creatures from other worlds in our vast and no doubt well populated Universe / Galaxy , Demons are the creation of the Human mind.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 05:51 AM
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I am not being a contrarian or a troll.I am simply stating I couldn't watch that video because that mans voice was so obnoxious.
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon Angels and demons are the same (daemons). Christianity change the concept of daemons, but they are all angels after all. The interesting thing about the Bible is that if you read well enough, you'll see that the supposedly "bad guys" are the ones that gave knowledge to humankind ( that's a theme for another occasion ), while God want us to keep us in the ignorance or teach us in a more slowly pace.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: ArchangelOger
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

Aliens ARE in fact demonic in nature, how is that you might ask? It's simple really, most if not all aliens are depicted as having 3 fingers which of course mocks the trinity, during some paranormal/ghost investigations, people are scratched and 99% of the time the scratches are in groups of three (mocking of the trinity again)

From my that point of view and the considered information both are entwined to be demonic IMO. One could go into further details regarding the matter, but most seem to overlook that simple but yet major fact.



Wouldn't an angel who wanted to glorify and represent the trinity also have three fingers and leave three scratches? How is representing a number mocking that number? Your argument would work just as well in favor of them being agents of the holy trinity.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: Abednego
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon Angels and demons are the same (daemons). Christianity change the concept of daemons, but they are all angels after all. The interesting thing about the Bible is that if you read well enough, you'll see that the supposedly "bad guys" are the ones that gave knowledge to humankind ( that's a theme for another occasion ), while God want us to keep us in the ignorance or teach us in a more slowly pace.


That lie keeps popping up. Christianity did not change the meaning of demons. Demons were always considered very bad. The Book of Enoch is one of the oldest books out there and most Jews had trust in it.

As for knowledge....I covered that part



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Rex282

His name is Trey Smith and I would say his narration takes some getting used too. His ministry is called God in a nutshell and they've got some pretty good videos. Something interesting he talks and writes about is how he broke into the estate and stole the safe from a corrupt televangelist.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: boymonkey74
www.abovetopsecret.com...

From your thread


If I was an alien reading ATS I would say to my alien pals "Oooh heck dudes we better not make ourselves known because If they do they will try and kill us because they think we are demons".

-______- Really

You missed the part about angels. I noticed how you completely disregarded angels, intentionally, because in your mind it is not as controversial. "Oooh heck dudes" logic is for suckers.
You seem to think no one has "made contact" with these entities



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: pennydrops

I have read/watched similar stuff. You should read about Nephilim and Greek gods.
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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I don't understand why a being from another planet would be seen as a "demon". I don't get it. Maybe the angels and Jesus are the demons? Maybe god is a demon? You have to admit that if there is a god, this god allows a lot of bad things to happen to good people. I just question the whole thing. Until a whole group of aliens come here doing bad things, I just can't label them all as "bad" or "demons". When thinking scientifically, all politics and religion need to be put to the side.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: Fylgje

You seem confused about what the word "demon" means. It means "Fallen Angel." Kinda like you are a fallen human, except you are not beyond redemption. God's mercy is not extended to demons.

Why bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people is a topic so extensively covered in the Scriptures that I kinda get surprised people still say it to try to make God seem bad.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon




Aliens = Angels and Demons or Angels and Demons = Aliens?

None of the above , Aliens are other creatures from other worlds in our vast and no doubt well populated Universe / Galaxy , Demons are the creation of the Human mind.


That's strange. You seem certain. It seems the only thing that is certainly a product of the human mind is your baseless assertion.

Like I said, by definition: angels and demons are aliens. And like "boymonkey," you completely disregarded angels because talking about demons is more controversial in your mind. Plus it is hard to discount the insanely high number of seemingly sane people who claim angels saved them in times of trouble.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
I don't understand why a being from another planet would be seen as a "demon". I don't get it. Maybe the angels and Jesus are the demons? Maybe god is a demon? You have to admit that if there is a god, this god allows a lot of bad things to happen to good people. I just question the whole thing. Until a whole group of aliens come here doing bad things, I just can't label them all as "bad" or "demons". When thinking scientifically, all politics and religion need to be put to the side.


The only way to know bad from good is to look at the fruits of the being. Funny that both Jesus and Buddha taught that in different words.

Some people are in the dualistic phase where only their brand of view can be holy and all other views must be wrong.

From my way of thinking demonic is defined as predatory for own gain (ego) not matter the consequences to others. And from that definition many human on this planet exhibit demonic behavioral patterns.
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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: LittleByLittle

originally posted by: Fylgje
I don't understand why a being from another planet would be seen as a "demon". I don't get it. Maybe the angels and Jesus are the demons? Maybe god is a demon? You have to admit that if there is a god, this god allows a lot of bad things to happen to good people. I just question the whole thing. Until a whole group of aliens come here doing bad things, I just can't label them all as "bad" or "demons". When thinking scientifically, all politics and religion need to be put to the side.


The only way to know bad from good is to look at the fruits of the being. Funny that both Jesus and Buddha taught that in different words.

Some people are in the dualistic phase where only their brand of view can be holy and all other views must be wrong.


Yet either Jesus or Buddha was a liar. I say Buddha was the liar.

Duality? No. It is what it is. Deductive logic is not duality.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: WeAllDieSoon

originally posted by: LittleByLittle

originally posted by: Fylgje
I don't understand why a being from another planet would be seen as a "demon". I don't get it. Maybe the angels and Jesus are the demons? Maybe god is a demon? You have to admit that if there is a god, this god allows a lot of bad things to happen to good people. I just question the whole thing. Until a whole group of aliens come here doing bad things, I just can't label them all as "bad" or "demons". When thinking scientifically, all politics and religion need to be put to the side.


The only way to know bad from good is to look at the fruits of the being. Funny that both Jesus and Buddha taught that in different words.

Some people are in the dualistic phase where only their brand of view can be holy and all other views must be wrong.


Yet either Jesus or Buddha was a liar. I say Buddha was the liar.

Duality? No. It is what it is. Deductive logic is not duality.


So Buddha is a liar when saying the same things in this case as Jesus. That is not logical at all. If Buddha is a liar then that would also mean Jesus is a liar. And that is logic 101

Remove the peg from the third eye first. Then come back and we will have a talk.
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