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Boy fatally stabbed by 12-year-old at playground

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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

look man, i'm no simpleton, but i gotta say....

"come again?"


It is a very extensive topic. Look into "hypnotic anchoring," for example. The average male Detroit teenager can not eat Mac and Cheese without thinking about shells. A common phrase that was propagated by corporate America is "macaroni time." When combined with drugs, it is even more effective. I am using that example because it is the easiest to understand. Of course this is combined with other things, most commonly Freudian psychology (to implant subconscious desires), Behaviorism (to get people to act on those desires and to reinforce patterns of behavior). Also combined is a propagation of false precepts that create a synergy with the other tools, and there are more than that.

In a society that allows this type of stuff, there is bound to be tons and tons of fall out and collateral damage. The truth is that most people are not responsible for their actions, but will be held responsible anyways. Meanwhile, the people who are really responsible for those actions profit from the people who are not responsible being held responsible.

This all holds true with the global workforce too, just in a different way. Long topic though.

Oh, and mental abnormality is also a tool in this box. A portion of the population is guaranteed to be mentally abnormal every generation. Like I said, the brain is the canvas and some canvases are abnormal. What is painted on that canvas determines the picture we see.




posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

You do realize the Freudian psychology has been pretty much completely discounted by modern Psychology, right? They do not even teach the stuff except as an historical perspective.

Where are you getting this stuff from?



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus

If a child is not taught right from wrong and has parents that do not do their jobs how does a child know what he sees on tv is just make believe? And the violence they show on tv is 10 times worse then when i was growing up



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: VoidHawk

firstly, it's absurd, as tv would no more teach our kids how to make poison, than they teach them how to kill...they show dramatized versions of things...TV isn't a murder manual, it's modern-day theatre...

the answer to your hypothetical though, is both.....tv shouldn't be giving detailed instruction on the manufacture of poison, and parents should be keeping their kids informed, and in line....


Do you honestly believe tv has no influence on kids, kids that on average spend seven hours per day staring at the screen? - being programmed.
Maybe you should tell that to the advertising companies!
To believe it does not influence them is whats "absurd".



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon


Using your logic all kids for the last 40 years should be doctors, lawyer, cops or jumping dodge chargers. Tv is only one input into the minds of kids.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

You do realize the Freudian psychology has been pretty much completely discounted by modern Psychology, right? They do not even teach the stuff except as an historical perspective.

Where are you getting this stuff from?



Freudian psychology as a diagnostic tool has been discredited. I mentioned that the diagnostic aspect of Freudian psychology is false, and always was. But you go ahead and tell Bernays and Hitler that Freudian psychology has no practical applications. It is very useful for *implanting* subconscious desires, but not for diagnosing their root causes.

I get my information from a lot of different sources (and I do mean a lot) along with a lot of personal observation.
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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon


Using your logic all kids for the last 40 years should be doctors, lawyer, cops or jumping dodge chargers. Tv is only one input into the minds of kids.


I never claimed TV was the only input. It is actually the least necessary. What is put on TV is synergistic with these things, but is much more useful for distraction and misdirection.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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Yahoo comments

Travis H.

"I live in Kentwood, there's other information being reported locally than that contained here. Apparently the suspect made comments to the police that no one loved him and he just wanted his life to end. It's really disheartening that a 12 year old is dealing with those kinds of thoughts. "

He didn't have to take a 9 year olds life, if he just wanted to end his. Maybe he was expecting to have the officers shoot him.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

i think what you're saying sounds a little tin-foily to me.....but seriously, start a thread, and PM me a link, i'll talk it out with you..



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: switchqm8

then if the child is not bright enough to tell the difference, then they think it's real, and maybe they get scared, and think the world is a terrible place, which it kinda is.....or, maybe, if their parents are crap, maybe they have other adults in their life who can help them understand the world around them.....but seriously, why try to set me up with such a stupid question...

of course we know what's going to happen if parents don't do their job...their kid will either grow up neurotic, and afraid of everything, or they'll be violent little monsters....it's exceptionally rare that kids from an environment like that grow up to be decent people....
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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

i think what you're saying sounds a little tin-foily to me.....but seriously, start a thread, and PM me a link, i'll talk it out with you..


Using every tool available to manipulate the human mind for the sake of profit sounds "tin-foily" to you? You do live in America right?

Research the tools and you will see that they are being used everywhere you go - if you know what to look for. No need to talk it out with me.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: VoidHawk

influence? yes, to a degree.....control? no.
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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

no, but that's the thing...it sounds a bit nuts, but also sounds interesting, and it's VERY off-topic for this thread....so i suggested you start a thread, so we can continue the conversation elsewhere, and not further derail the thread....it also gives others a chance to chime in on the subject..

seriously, you should do it...might be fun..



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

no, but that's the thing...it sounds a bit nuts, but also sounds interesting, and it's VERY off-topic for this thread....so i suggested you start a thread, so we can continue the conversation elsewhere, and not further derail the thread....it also gives others a chance to chime in on the subject..

seriously, you should do it...might be fun..


I might. It is the kind of thing people have to do a lot of research on to understand because of the number of variables involved. In fact, people get college degrees and/or serve years in the military to learn how to do this stuff (not that doing either of those things is necessary to understanding it).

Anyways, it is not off topic because I believe this manipulation is responsible for a lot of the violence children display. Especially in our cities.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

Perhaps. Or perhaps it is just "mother nature's way of controlling population density. There have been studies done where population densities of animals, under controlled conditions, are allowed to increase way beyond normal levels. They make sure there is plenty of food and water.

Oddly enough a few behaviors begin to emerge as the population becomes more dense. Violence for one, including cannibalism.

The best explanation is that it is a reaction to socialism (not political). Basically, they (we..in large cities) do not get enough time where we do not have to react to social encounters. Not enough "down time" or time to ourselves and the social reaction is one of anger/frustration which is taken out on our neighbors.

This is one reason most of the most horrible acts take place in or around heavily populated areas. Either in the inner city, or in the 'burbs. You do not hear about some country boy going wacko and killing his family or walking into the school and shooting everyone up. There are no Jack the Rippers in the country.

It's almost as though Mother Nature has built in a population limiting device into our beings.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: bbracken677

There is plenty of extreme behavior in the country. Serial killers and all that. I'm not sure why you think extreme behavior is uncommon in the country, but I assure you that population density has very little to do with this unless you are talking Gaza density. Detroit is sparsely populated and has one of the highest murder rates in the country, and the highest violent crime rate per capita. Animals are animals; not applicable to human sociology.

Plus, animals don't hypnotize each other.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

right, but the topic of the thread isn't "why do children display violence", it's "child kills another child with a knife"...so we're supposed to discuss this, not blame tv, or talk about subliminal manipulation, and propaganda...



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: WeAllDieSoon

ahh...show me a link that details some serial murderer who lives in the country...by that I mean rural.

I can assure you, and present facts and studies to back up my claims, that population density has everything to do with it.

One of the things the studies discovered was that if you took rodents from the study and tried to reintegrate them back into a normal population, most did not reintegrate...most maintained their anti-social behavior. Hence: Detroit. Detroit is not as sparsely populated as you claim, or at least as I interpret your claim.

And...au contraire, there is much about animal behavior that applies to humans. You infer some knowledge of psychology and yet make that statement? Shame on you lol



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus

I disagree. I think a root cause discussion is entirely on topic. Otherwise there would only be a few posts that say "oh, my","What a shame" and then on to the next thread.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: bbracken677

Wow your world view is wildly inaccurate. NY has a high population density and low crime rate. Detroit has a low population density and high crime rate. As for your study about rats.... seriously? I am having trouble taking you seriously. In fact, at this point I am fairly certain you are messing with me. You are messing with me right?




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