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Scottish Independance & Possible Huge Oil Discovery

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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: doomguy5000

If you think more private held firearms is going to reduce crime you should really google US murder rates.

i wont even dignify the overt racism if the rest of your post with an answer.




posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

I think there is a very important point that you have touched on in your post that a vote yes or no is a gamble. Politics and economics change continually there is no option for the status quo.

i am pro yes but respect those who disagree if they have thought about it. Just have no time for the "to wee, too poor, too stupid" argument.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 04:15 AM
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Putting things in perspective , i'd rather be independent , and face financial hardship even unemployment.
The current government who haven't given me a pay rise in 8 years give me no hope for my future
and I may lose my job If i vote for independence , but I'm willing to take that gamble on my future if it means having a more representation in a democracy.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: sapien82
i would work for free to make a independent Scotland a success....why?....one reason would be just to get it right up the naysayers that we/us Scots have the china dolls to go it alone.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

You wouldn't call it racism if it was your ass, but whatever.

Two friends of mine were recently raped in these circumstances. One has since committed suicide, the other suffers enormously every day. Talking facts isn't racism.
edit on 7 8 2014 by Kester because: clarify emotional response

edit on 7 8 2014 by Kester because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Kester

Not to be rude or insensitive but what has your friends unfortunate circumstances got to do with Scottish independence ?



My mate Loki , speaking some truth about the future of Scotland!
he is a Yes all the way



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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I dunno who's bright idea this is but this surely cant help for the NO vote

Fracking hell!



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: 8675309jenny
Oil issues aside. Scotland contributes more to Westminster than it takes back. People talk about things like Scots getting free University and prescriptions...


That isn't true - for the past few years they have been running a pretty high deficit. For example, 2011/12 figures show Scotland, with a geographical share of oil revenue included, were around £56 Billion, but with a spend of £64 Billion.


originally posted by: 8675309jenny
Yet any UK citizen can come and get the free Uni in Scotland, many thousands do every year. And free scripts??


That isn't true - Scottish Universities are free to charge English (and other UK students) the tuition fee. However, EU students are entitled to the free Uni - ironically, should Scotland vote yes and manage to negotiate entry to the EU, rUK students will then be able to get free Uni too, which will only cause a flood of applications from down South as Scotland pays to educate our young

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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: knoledgeispower


Err.....Africa isn't a country, its a continent.
And the war and devastation that occurs in Africa hasn't only been a recent thing, its been going on literally for centuries.


I meant to say continent, I need to stop being so distracted when I make posts.

Yes I know war & devastation in Africa isn't a new thing. That's what makes this so perfect, no one is going to believe that something dark & sinister is going on in order for more American troops to be there & eventually get oil.

The first test was Kony 2012. How quickly can we spread a lie that will get people so riled up, they demand action?

Once that succeeded & seeing how quickly people get riled up & demand action over other events, they knew they could start the process.

A) Young people getting abducted by Boko Haram

B) Ebola outbreak

What's next? Not sure but something is hinky about it all. I just remind myself of the huge amounts of oil there & how Murica will stop at nothing to get it. They've done this sort of thing before & they will continue to do so.



Where will there be a war?
And who between?


Somewhere close by to the oil, Shetland or else where.

Not sure who it will be between but if history repeats itself, it will probably be so me sort of extremists or terrorists who will "start it"



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:51 AM
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I hope they do get independence, then it will end any chance of Labour ever getting in to power again. Even with their previous era of trying to import votes so that they can gain power without a care for the chaos it causes, there is a substantial voting pool in Scotland that generally helps Labour get to power as the majority in England is generally Conservative, with the exception of the deprived areas flooded with immigrants granted British passports under the Labour shower. So, if Scotland goes, that to me would signal the end of Labour and as much as Conservatives have really only talked a good game, it's better the devil I kow. If Labour ever got in again, I would quit my job, because they have proven with every term, but in particular with the most recent, that they have only one agenda and that is to destroy Britain while rinsing the British tax payer to fund smoked Salmon Socialist projects and policies, I will never work under them again. So go Scotland, be free! Please! I beg you!



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: Kester
his statement was that the majority of rapes were carried out by Muslims or east Europeans. If you that is a "fact" then a sure you can provide some evidence



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: stumason

They are two different things. All of the UK runs a deficit, Scotland however contributes a higher percentage of revenue than it receives as expenditure.

The tuition fees is an interesting one as there are number of indirect ways to give free uni education to Scottish residents (such as grants based on minimm residency),however i believe the SNP have pledged to maintain the current system of no fees which i think would not be EU compliant.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: SecretFace

The labour party died with John Smith. If you are happy with the conservatives currently in power that's your call.

I wouldn't fancy that labour lot either. It might be different in Scotland any labour party would have to return to their roots to stand against the SNP. I have no party affiliations...the last time I was asked who I supported I answered...Molotov cocktails.

I say bring the politics home to where it is accountable.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: SecretFace

My guess is you live down south.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: midicon

I wasn't pathologically adverse to emoticans i would give you a dozen thumbs up of agreement for that whole post.

the choice in Westminster is between the Red or Blue tories.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: stumason

Quite right Stu , free education for the world at our expense , thats the way it should be , we care about the future of our species like other nations who offer free education to foreign students!
and with our Unis quite high up on the tables they will get a good education and maybe stay in an independent Scotland where they will be welcome to better themselves and humanity !



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: midicon



I wasn't pathologically adverse to emoticans i would give you a dozen thumbs up of agreement for that whole post.



the choice in Westminster is between the Red or Blue tories.



Hey, not only are we in agreement but we share the same aversion.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: mirageman

I think there is a very important point that you have touched on in your post that a vote yes or no is a gamble. Politics and economics change continually there is no option for the status quo.

i am pro yes but respect those who disagree if they have thought about it. Just have no time for the "to wee, too poor, too stupid" argument.


Any vote in politics is a gamble and speaking to a number of your fellow countrymen and women I am getting the impression that it's almost a straight split between staying or leaving. There is a lot of uncertainty of what a future holds for an independent Scotland (or indeed a Scotland remaining part of the UK). But at least you have that choice.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: SecretFace
I hope they do get independence, then it will end any chance of Labour ever getting in to power again. Even with their previous era of trying to import votes so that they can gain power without a care for the chaos it causes, there is a substantial voting pool in Scotland that generally helps Labour get to power as the majority in England is generally Conservative, with the exception of the deprived areas flooded with immigrants granted British passports under the Labour shower. So, if Scotland goes, that to me would signal the end of Labour and as much as Conservatives have really only talked a good game, it's better the devil I kow. If Labour ever got in again, I would quit my job, because they have proven with every term, but in particular with the most recent, that they have only one agenda and that is to destroy Britain while rinsing the British tax payer to fund smoked Salmon Socialist projects and policies, I will never work under them again. So go Scotland, be free! Please! I beg you!

BullSheeeeeeit.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

Indeed

Here is a political map of the UK from the Economist which equalises the size of constituencies and colour codes according to the turn-out for the winning party.



Source: The Economist
edit on 7/8/14 by mirageman because: image added



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