Russian Soldiers Commit 'Torture' & War Crimes In Ukraine

a reply to: TritonTaranis

They already knew way before what was going to happen:

www.youtube.com...

www.globalresearch.ca... the-great-game-and-world-war-iii

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Not surprised... At the article or responses to this thread.

This is not the first report of Russians / Pro Russians acting in an inconsistent manner as a soldier. Even the civilians in the East / South are getting tired of the way they are treated by the rebels / Pro Russians.

Just more evidence to show the Russian military is directly involved in the south / east.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

In this case, it would be more like a Russian getting voted in and changing the structure of our society to a different kind of society with only communist allies.

Half the people in this country would stand against that.

This is about the same thing that is happening over there but the twist is the opposite.

Your example doesn't even sound close to the same as the situation in the Ukraine to me.

sick..

Sorry Triton, Xcathdra - literally NOBODY here is buying what you are selling. Sorry about that. Folks are more educated around here than that.

You'd have better luck taking this nonsense to the comments section of Fox News or CNN. Maybe you'd get some sympathy from the kool aid drinkers there - but not here.


What did you expect though?

Afterall, the OP did attempt to use an Instagram profile as evidence of 'a known fact' that Russian soldiers are operating throughout Ukraine....pathetic really....that an Instagram can pass as evidence these days...sigh.

Try again with some better info next time - oh and lose the sensationalist title. That right there is a red flag to many a member around here.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

No Russia has had a plan to secure them clearly for a long time, Russia has know for decades Ukraine would end up moving towards closer ties with the EU ever since the break up of the Soviet Union,

I'm sorry, I just have to ask… were you even alive during the greater part of the Cold War between the US and USSR?

I' not focusing on you per se just yore apparent belief in the Russia as evil empire. Those of us fed heaping spoon fills of that all our lives are so past believing that dogma anymore. And yet every problem in the world according to you like Syria and Ukraine for instance are just regurgitations of the main stream medias views.

You have heard of the conspiracy that the main stream lies to the people? What are you even doing here?

a reply to: lightedhype

So when you cant attack the facts you attack those you don't share your view.. typical but not surprising.

Dismissing the info does not invalidate the info and your response, and those you targeted in it, are evidence of that failure on your part.

Besides, those screaming about this info had no issues accepting the leaked phone calls Russian intelligence services put out. Funny how that works isn't it.

Maybe you should concentrate on refuting the info with facts.

I don't think they are Russian soldiers because they don't look well equipped enough to be

a reply to: Xcathdra

Maybe you should concentrate on refuting the info with facts.

What is "fact" for you?

WARNING: graphic image on link

www.veteranstoday.com...

Dear Mr. President, You actually claim Russia is "moving into Ukraine...really?" So what do you think Victoria Nuland's $5 billion was for, and all the color revolutions we have been supporting, even after we got our Nobel Peace Prize president, who has made a joke of that award, cheapened it?

We have our State Dept., CIA, NATO and military contractors running all over the place in Ukraine, creating mayhem along with the Israelis. The graft has already started with "children of politicians" lining up to get a piece of the action, like VP Joe Biden's son. The list is growing already, the usual suspects.

In case you forget, we are well aware of the US and NATO plan to march up to the Russian border. We are also aware of Russia's long time relations and investment in Ukraine with its major Black Sea base, huge industrial development, huge energy subsidies which have made products from Ukraine cheaper for Western buyers and giving the EU a trade surplus.

a reply to: lightedhype

Actually I'm willing to wager most of the educated folks either stay away from these issues or have left ats altogether. Don't mistake the influx of russian trolls as some sort of stamp of ATS approval. You might star and flag yourselves to a self proclaimed majority here, but you are still a global minority. The world knows the truth, no matter how hard you try to change it on the internet.

I thought it was our rebels in Syria torturing people.. you know, our rebels. The ones we're arming and supporting?

your saying its Russia now and its all of a sudden bad ?

why cant the Russians torture prisoners when we're supporting people in their torture of prisoners?

sorry I've gone off topic haven't I, we were bashing the soviets and Putin weren't we?

a reply to: Expat888

And ? The ukrainians are doing the same thing .. wheres the outrage against them ?

Here. Amnesty International is one of those evil NGOs that Putin finds so threatening. As you can see, they turn their righteous anger towards wrongdoers without respect to politics.

a reply to: DJW001

You are right, Amnesty = NGO of NWO.

Torture?

...and here is the video of soldier shown in the article. At the end of the video you can see how he was "tortured" in hospital:


Donbass rebels are not similar to the western supported and financed syrian "rebels".

Western dream = nightmare.

a reply to: maghun

You are right, Amnesty = NGO of NWO.

You will note that Amnesty International also criticizes Kiyev for acts of violence against dissenters. They are fair and balanced. Please read the article before you try to drown it out with propaganda. It may open your eyes.

Torture?

Staged. Phony. Propaganda. Kidnapping and torture is well documented in the "Donetsk People's Republic."

See for yourself.

a reply to: DJW001

Ask his family about the staged event, he called them from the hospital in Donetsk:



Smartphones are everywhere...

Ukraine says rebels fired on unarmed troops -
The soldiers were making their way back to Ukraine after being forced by separatist fire to flee into Russia, Kiev says.

Pro-Russian separatists have opened fire on unarmed Ukrainian soldiers as they were crossing back into Ukraine from Russia where they had taken shelter from fighting, Ukrainian defence officials say.

The soldiers made their return on Tuesday, the day after Ukraine acknowledged that 311 soldiers and border guards had been forced by fighting with separatists to cross into Russia.

It said they had destroyed their weapons before crossing the border, but the rebels said they had left them behind, enabling separatists to seize them.

"Today at about 6am [separatist] fighters treacherously fired on a column in which there were 195 unarmed Ukrainian troops returning from the Russian Federation," Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for the national defence council, told Interfax news agency.

He had no immediate word on casualties.

The soldiers crossed the border on Monday, leading some reports that they had "abandoned Kiev".

Vasily Malayev, head of the Federal Security Service's border patrol in the Rostov region said the Russian side had opened a safe corridor for the soldiers into Russia.

Late on Monday, Malayev said 180 of the troops had since been returned to Ukraine after consultations with Kiev while the rest were deciding what to do next.

Click link for remainder of article..

a reply to: Xcathdra

Fake Euromaidan report in Crimea, Sevastopol staged at night, this is ukrainian TV, they are talking only about the truth:

a reply to: maghun

Ask his family about the staged event, he called them from the hospital in Donetsk:

Sure is lucky that there just happened to be a camera and sound crew there to record this perfectly routine act of mercy.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

People who believe that russia would be dumb enough as to allow torture when the situation is so tense are incredibly dumb. You will really believe anything unless you are showed what to believe? What a joke.

Propaganda is everywhere, lies are everywhere, hypocrites are everywhere. In fact you have no chance of understanding the situation without thinking out of the box. You need to put yourself in the place of the masterminds if you want to be anything but confused and lost..

originally posted by: DeadSeraph
a reply to: lightedhype

Actually I'm willing to wager most of the educated folks either stay away from these issues or have left ats altogether. Don't mistake the influx of russian trolls as some sort of stamp of ATS approval. You might star and flag yourselves to a self proclaimed majority here, but you are still a global minority. The world knows the truth, no matter how hard you try to change it on the internet.

Exactly this...

I've been here since 2001 with severaly user names over the years, I can honestly say this forum is a shadow of its former self, it was mainly paranormal but now has turned into a political troll site, sure many have left but a lot of those Russia trolls you speak of are measly lunatics who have followed illuminati conspiracy's for the past decade or two, it seems they think everything is the US and Israel's fault and Putin is a great big middle finger to there master plan..

Madness pure madness these people need professional help, personally I'd prescribe them with a ban form the internet and a nice warm cup of sedatives