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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: VoidHawk
Oh my god! You're right! How dare they provide me with accurate information on my power usage so that I can then use that information to save myself money each month!
originally posted by: Caver78
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul
Your missing the point. Having the ability to turn off your utility without due process is over reach. I'm not saying people who gauge the utility companies aren't scum, but the contract you normally have with a power company doesn't include a clause where if you are a customer in good standing they can just flip a switch and cut you off.
originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: Caver78
That may be true.
But then, the power company is (in most places) a private company who's services you pay for. You either agree to the contract for the services they provide and how they provide it (and there will be a clause that states that), or you simply do not retain their services.....
Two members of congress (Jerry McNerney, D- Stockton, CA and Matt Cartwright, D- PA) have introduced a congressional bill (HR 2685) that would Smart Gridapparently require all electricity providers (including rural cooperatives and municipal utilities) to join the ‘smart’ grid and install ‘smart’ meters.
In addition the bill would require appliances with the Energy Star label to include wireless transmitters that cannot be turned off, in order to communicate (and presumably cough up your private data and respond to orders from Big Brother Smart Grid to switch you off at a moment’s notice, as happened to dozens of people in Northern California recently when their not-so-smart-AC program cut off their air conditioning at the height of the recent heat wave.)
The bill would also establish a “smart grid information center” that would presumably create pro-smart grid propaganda at the taxpayer’s expense. Sounds like the marriage between industry and government is about to be consummated- unless you take action and restrict this perverse love affair.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: links234
firstly, "we" (and by "we", i mean you) don't know anything..."we" ASSUME we know what data it's collecting, and what it's being used for....fact is, "we" DON'T actually know...
secondly, if smart meters are needed to prevent grid overloads, how did we do it BEFORE they were invented, and are they really worth it? meaning are they providing an actual benefit?
...i'll get back to you on that evidence thing....it's gonna take some research, and i'm busy at the moment..