Alabama Congressman Mo Brooks: All 500,000 DREAMers, '8 Million' Undocumented Immigrants Should Be

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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from article..a question of where they come up with the money for the welcome mats and the Happy Meals.” Brooks elaborated, “they should not be fed and clothed for years, which apparently is the direction that the president wants to take us. Rather, those children should be taken care of here and very expeditiously reunited with their families back home.”

When pressed by Hayes on the deportation of undocumented immigrants, the Alabama lawmaker said that they are “taking jobs from American citizens” and that he “absolutely” wants to see them deported.

“There are 8 million jobs in America now held by illegal aliens, that’s 8 million job opportunities taken from American citizens,” said Brooks. When Hayes asked the congressman if he “would like to see those 8 million deported,” Brooks answered, “Yeah, if that’s what’s necessary to protect American jobs. Absolutely.”
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for once i agree with a politician ..the world must becoming to a end lol...

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: switchqm8

I don't think Mo thought this out to well. How many Americans will skin chickens, clean motel rooms, pick vegatables/fruit, wash dishes, or do other distasteful service jobs for less than minimum wage?



www.numbersusa.org...

Corporate America loves illegals for cheap labor and that's not going to change!!

Obama is doing exactly what his neocon corporate masters tell him to do.



www.wsws.org...



www.opednews.com... tml
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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Get the illegals out and the corporations would have to pay at least minimum wage! What was that thread from a short while ago...The Dems want the illegals for the votes and the Repubs want them for the cheap labor...
Btw, I've never skinned chickens, but I've done the other 3 jobs at various times in my life.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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Why be out the expense to repatriate these invaders to their country of origin? As far as I'm concerned, these people came from Mexico. That's where they're crossing our border from. Return them to Mexico. Let them be Mexicos problem. Mexico, who generally enforces its southern border very strictly, is letting them cross. Some entity(s) is bribing Mexican officials to let these people cross the country. We don't owe these invaders anything! A lot of groups are planning on making a lot of money, at taxpayers expense, housing and feeding these criminals. We need to make it more "uncomfortable" for these illegals to be here than it was for them back home.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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The whole Americans will not do this job or that job is b.s.When you are about to be homeless or go hungry you will do what you have to.I used to make 50-55,000 a year in my 20s in the automotive industry now they want me to do that same job and more for 11 bucks a hour. Right now i am working in construction/foreclosure and only make 13 an hour big pay cut but i need to eat.Not all of us want a hand out from the government...i will do any job if it means food on my table and a roof over my head.....and im in my 40s and working harder then i ever did.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: switchqm8
The whole Americans will not do this job or that job is b.s.When you are about to be homeless or go hungry you will do what you have to.I used to make 50-55,000 a year in my 20s in the automotive industry now they want me to do that same job and more for 11 bucks a hour. Right now i am working in construction/foreclosure and only make 13 an hour big pay cut but i need to eat.Not all of us want a hand out from the government...i will do any job if it means food on my table and a roof over my head.....and im in my 40s and working harder then i ever did.


Exactly....

That's been the plan from the beginning. Ask yourself...who really profits from this new capitalistic model????
I saw the red flags 10 years ago and learned the speculation game. The conservatives like to rag on what they see as socialism but the reality is far different than the BS from Rush. It's crony capitalism and corruption from top to bottom. Reality is a bitch if you let your ideology get in the way of your common sense.


Good Luck amigo...you're going to need it!!!
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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It seems like we have more than our share of hateful, self-serving, sociopathic leadership in our government. And even more disturbing is the fact that these thugs were actually voted into office by somebody! Have we lost all our sense of morals and compassion for others not so fortunate? I guess we have. It seems no one gives a hoot anymore. These are sad times.

I wonder where Mo Brooks ancestry leads? It seems to me that most of us in the US, excluding native Americans, came from somewhere else not all that many generations back. I’m an American, but before the mid-1800’s my ancesters came here from Italy. Actually I think they were kinda chased out of Italy and came here on the lam. Anyway, I’ve always read that cultural diversity helped make this country great. You know, the Great Melting Pot and all that. I mean really, how boring would it be if EVERYONE was a foaming at the mouth evangelical lunatic?

I’m not saying that we shouldn’t control the influx of immigrants crossing our borders. We’d be irresponsible as a country not to do that. I’m not particularly knowledgeable on this topic, but my understanding is that the current problem on our border is more of a refugee situation, which is quite different than immigration. These are young children escaping the muderous grip of violent drug cartels and organized crime in their countries. They’re coming here and willingly giving themselves up to the authorities, and not sneaking across the border. Frankly, I’m quite ashamed of this country’s callous response to the situation. It’s not the same America I grew up in. We’ve become a cold nation, devoid of compassion and with a heart of stone. Certainly not the leader of the free world we once were.

Representatives like Mo Brooks are perfect examples of the dysfunction and chaos we call Congress. They seem to be incapable of taking adult responsibility, and appear to suffer symptoms of retarded brain development. I actually think this country would make more progress and be a lot better off if all of Congress were fired tomorrow and replaced by elementary school children. Elementary school kids show much more maturity.

Just my 2 cents...



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: netbound

We have changed as a nation, this is also a much different time.

It is a tragic situation for these children, however what are we teaching them by allowing them to break our laws? Is it not also tragic they are separated from their families. We cannot solve the worlds problems like this, not while there is such division within our borders over EVERYTHING. Simply put how can we help anyone remove the speck from their eyes while we have a board in our own?



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 03:45 PM
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How's that outreach to Latinos and other minorities going GOP?

The young people that are benefiting from the Dream Act are kids that were brought here by their parents. Some of them don't even know Spanish. They do deserve an opportunity to make something out of themselves in the country that educated them.

Sadly a statement like this one coming from a representative from Alabama does not surprise me one bit. Also Republicans might control the house, but Obama was re-elected in 2012 after having issued a deferred action to kids that were here illegally.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: netbound

I keep seeing people in these threads comparing this current influx of illegal immigrants with ancestral immigrants, as though they are the same thing.
They are not and here is why.
From the moment the first colonists landed on what would become America's shores until the 1950s, America was nation building. There was more work that needed to be done than people to do that work.
Today, it's just the opposite.
It appears to me that the American government is deliberately destroying this once great nation. Just look at all the manufacturing jobs that have disappeared from America. That's just 1 example.

Today, there are more people out of work (by their own choice or otherwise) than there are jobs.

Also, immigration policies and procedures were quite different, then and now. Most ancestral immigrants legally came to America and went through the process of becoming citizens the proper, correct and LEGAL way.

To compare historic immigration with immigration today is a woefully flawed argument.

Elo
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: Bumfuzzle

I agree. You’re right on all points.

Like I said, I’m not knowledgeable on this topic, but it seems to me there should be some solution to this that at least borders on Humanitarian. Do we not have laws covering refugee situations? I’m not talking about immigration law.

I guess this isn’t a common problem faced by the US. It’s a problem more often faced by other countries. Maybe there’s some sketchy international law, but not much specifically focussed on the US.

Sorry, I seem to be thinking out loud and spewing random garbage all over this nice thread.


You’re right, though, Bumfuzzle, we can’t be everyone’s keeper when we can’t even manage our own affairs. I wonder what we would suggest to another country facing the same problem?



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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Middle class america has slowed down there spending with how bleak the economie is doing at the moment. Corporations need new spenders and cheaper workers, its all about there profit.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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Do we not have laws covering refugee situations? I’m not talking about immigration law.


If things truly are as bad as the politicians and MSM make it out to be in these other countries then where are the parents of these children also seeking refugee status. According to the US Citizenship and Immigration Services page


"Refugee status or asylum may be granted to people who have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, and/or membership in a particular social group or political opinion.

Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States. Refugees are generally people outside of their country who are unable or unwilling to return home because they fear serious harm. "
www.uscis.gov...


Surely the parents can make the same claim that our politicians are making if it truly a humanitarian issue.

I have no idea what we can do to help reunite these children with their parents. I'm afraid the choices aren't very clear or easy. However, if we continue to do nothing the problem will get worse and worse until we can help no one.

And on a side note, please keep "spewing random garbage all over this nice thread". Discussion leads to great ideas and now more than ever the world needs great ideas.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I don't think Mo thought this out to well. How many Americans will skin chickens, clean motel rooms, pick vegatables/fruit, wash dishes, or do other distasteful service jobs for less than minimum wage?


How Alabama’s immigration law is crippling its farms

Alabama lawmakers insist that, by driving undocumented workers out, they will open jobs for Americans; the unemployment rate in the state is nearly 10 percent. But farmers say that jobless U.S. workers, mostly inexperienced in field work and concentrated in and around cities, are ill-suited and mostly unwilling to do the back-breaking, poorly paid work required to plant and harvest tomatoes, squash, cucumbers and other crops. Farmers also say that, if they were to raise wages to make the jobs more attractive, as advocates for the new law suggest, crop prices would soar, making Alabama produce uncompetitive.


Some Alabama farmers cut back crops, citing illegal immigration crackdown

Keith Dickie said he and other growers in the heart of Alabama's tomato country didn't have any choice but to reduce acreage amid fears there won't be enough workers to pick the delicate fruit.


The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

Despite high unemployment in the state, most Georgians don’t want such back-breaking jobs, nor do they have the necessary skills. According to Dick Minor, president of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Grower’s Association, immigrants “are pretty much professional harvesters” with many specializing in particular crops.

Workers are paid by volume, with skilled workers typically earning $15 to $20 an hour. Unskilled workers earn much less, which is why most locals don’t want the jobs.

Georgia’s experience is consistent with economic research on immigration. Although many Americans believe immigrants “steal” our jobs and push down our wages, economists find little evidence of that.


Our economic problems aren't going to be solved be deporting illegal immigrants. There's no factual data that can show otherwise.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: links234

So what's wrong with doing this the legal way ?

U.S. DOL - Foreign Workers




posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Nothing. That's just the problem though, isn't it? Congressman Brooks isn't looking to make it possible for them to do it legally, he's just looking to deport them. He can't just say, 'Well, they're already here, how can we make this easier on them, on the economy and on our citizens?" Nope, the only answer he has is 'deport', ensuing issues be damned.

We know just removing 8 million workers from the country will be bad for the economy, it will be bad for the workers and it will be bad for us in terms of produce prices and tax revenue. All of our evidence points to that.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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Mo must be up for reelection. Pandering to his conservative base, trying to stay relevant with hyperbole
and unthinking drivel with absolutely nothing to back up his BS. The good ole corporate boys on the golf course tell MO;
"Mo, you can say anything you want to your constituents, but just remember who owns the big stick"
Southern politics is decided on the country club golf course; not in the Capital state house where there cameras
and recording devices everywhere.
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posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: olaru12
I don't think Mo thought this out to well. How many Americans will skin chickens, clean motel rooms, pick vegatables/fruit, wash dishes, or do other distasteful service jobs for less than minimum wage?


How Alabama’s immigration law is crippling its farms

Alabama lawmakers insist that, by driving undocumented workers out, they will open jobs for Americans; the unemployment rate in the state is nearly 10 percent. But farmers say that jobless U.S. workers, mostly inexperienced in field work and concentrated in and around cities, are ill-suited and mostly unwilling to do the back-breaking, poorly paid work required to plant and harvest tomatoes, squash, cucumbers and other crops. Farmers also say that, if they were to raise wages to make the jobs more attractive, as advocates for the new law suggest, crop prices would soar, making Alabama produce uncompetitive.


Some Alabama farmers cut back crops, citing illegal immigration crackdown

Keith Dickie said he and other growers in the heart of Alabama's tomato country didn't have any choice but to reduce acreage amid fears there won't be enough workers to pick the delicate fruit.


The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

Despite high unemployment in the state, most Georgians don’t want such back-breaking jobs, nor do they have the necessary skills. According to Dick Minor, president of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Grower’s Association, immigrants “are pretty much professional harvesters” with many specializing in particular crops.

Workers are paid by volume, with skilled workers typically earning $15 to $20 an hour. Unskilled workers earn much less, which is why most locals don’t want the jobs.

Georgia’s experience is consistent with economic research on immigration. Although many Americans believe immigrants “steal” our jobs and push down our wages, economists find little evidence of that.


Our economic problems aren't going to be solved be deporting illegal immigrants. There's no factual data that can show otherwise.



In 1962 I was on a wine grape picking crew,4 of us,me a native and 3 braceros.we started at 6 am and by 11am we went home having earned 60-70 dollars.5 years ago I surveyed wine grape picking crews and they were reporting that they were making 60-70 dollars working up to 5pm.Same area,same grapes.What changed?
What changed was the great influx of illegals in the 70`s and 80`s.There is no incentive for an employer to pay more because illegals are always willing to undercut the prices on labor.In the mid 70`s I gave up and could no longer compete.
So you tell me how getting rid of illegals would hurt the economy.I say it would drive wages up where they are supposed to be.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 02:15 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: switchqm8

I don't think Mo thought this out to well. How many Americans will skin chickens, clean motel rooms, pick vegatables/fruit, wash dishes, or do other distasteful service jobs for less than minimum wage?



www.numbersusa.org...

Corporate America loves illegals for cheap labor and that's not going to change!!

Obama is doing exactly what his neocon corporate masters tell him to do.



www.wsws.org...



www.opednews.com... tml


How many Americans would like to become sheet metal workers, heavy equipment operators, painters, plumbers, or masons? Yeah illegal aliens do these jobs as well. The fact is that illegal labor depresses wages for everyone in areas where they are plentiful.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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Yes!Just think what 60 1962 dollars would be today!If that wage rate prevailed today picking crops,I would be out there tryin!





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