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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Why would you try to be the best object you can be? And who is measuring and what device is used to measure?
Why would you try to be the best object you can be? And who is measuring and what device is used to measure?
All (believed in) objects compete and competition is conflict - wanting to be better than something other is caused by feeling inferior and the need to feel superior - one does not already feel worthy and whole and complete.
Until you realize what you really are (what there really is) - you put a mask on - that mask divides the whole into what then appears as many objects - and one can get lost in concepts.
There may be a hearing and understanding of the words and everything could change. No one can tell what wakes one up to reality. Of course, I cannot convince anyone of anything, only if there is a willingness, a readiness to look will one actually look. If a person is full of beliefs then that person will not want to look and find that they could be wrong - I know what minds are like. Conclusions are usually made along the standard model of thinking and not many look outside the box - in fact most are not aware of the box.
originally posted by: Aphorism
You might think yourself as not an object, but convincing others of that is mere sophistry. They see you and will arrive at their conclusions by their own accord.
That which thinks it is a concept (a thing) is worrisome. It is continually up against other concepts - battling to win and put down any thing (concept) other in order for it to survive - it always feels threatened.
If getting lost in concepts is worrisome to someone, I would argue they need to get out more and see the real world.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
There may be a hearing and understanding of the words and everything could change. No one can tell what wakes one up to reality.
originally posted by: Aphorism
You might think yourself as not an object, but convincing others of that is mere sophistry. They see you and will arrive at their conclusions by their own accord.
That which thinks it is a concept (a thing) is worrisome. It is continually up against other concepts - battling to win and put down any thing (concept) other in order for it to survive - it always feels threatened.
If getting lost in concepts is worrisome to someone, I would argue they need to get out more and see the real world.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
What is actually happening is actually here and real - it is experienced.
originally posted by: Bluesma
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
What is actually happening is actually here and real - it is experienced.
Exactly. What is actually happening is an experience of self-other separation.
So why try to stop experiencing that?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
When the separation is felt it makes one feel isolated and unfulfilled and one is always seeking to fill up - desire and fear is the result - one feels lack so wants and one fears one is going to lose.
originally posted by: Bluesma
Whatever. Do what you like. We've been through this before. You never can seem to believe that the experience of separation can be this good and fun.
originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: Itisnowagain
Concepts are just the building blocks of experience.
originally posted by: Bluesma
Concepts are just the building blocks of experience.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: Bluesma
Concepts are just the building blocks of experience.
Are you saying you plan and map out your future experiences?
Are you not always experiencing even if you do not put a word (concept) on it?
Experiencing is what you are.
You are not a concept.
originally posted by: Bluesma
Now I have to get up and shower and go off to work, and my time in the trading place is over for today. The experiences I have will be the fruit of the concepts I currently have put into my depths. If I find any of my experiences uncomfortable, then I shall consider changing them and getting more effective ones tomorrow.