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Scientists discover vast methane plumes escaping from Arctic seafloor

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: Caver78

Hi Caver78, I think the member that you are referring to is named Rezlooper. They have done a number of threads in the past on this specific issue. Hope this helps, Namaste
Arjunanda




posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

The last time the solar system was in the position it is in now in the galaxy, there were dinosaurs roaming Earth.

Perhaps there are factors to this cycle causing such effects.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

How are you so sure that it is 'we' that are destabilizing the currents and not just a natural process? I agree something needs to be done to offset the warming (if that's possible), and environmental pollution is bad, but it won't happen until we are at the brink. Plus the politics and dirty taxing schemes need to get the heck outa science so we can get honest answers. There have been so many dirty tricks and skewed or hidden data to push the warming agenda that I don't believe a single word coming from these big institutions anymore. They can make a climate model show anything they want and even though many have been shoved in our faces, they've been proven wrong as time goes on. I would like to see honest, open source science before any decisions are made or taxes levied.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: NiZZiM
It won't happen at all - we'll wait until the brink, and then it'll be too late. Just look at the history of human civilization. Always it is with taxes, even though nobody has these carbon taxes in the U.S. save for some local communities. There's plenty of 'honest, open source science' that you can look at right now. Start with NASA or the IPCC. There's lots of information available, data sets and all.

Here's a quickie: we're emitting over 29 gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere annually. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing by a little less than 19 gigatonnes annually. The remainder is absorbed by sinks. It's up 4.4% in 7 years, from around 383ppm (jan. '07) to 400ppm (apr. '14), or an increase of about 0.6% annually.
edit on 2Sun, 03 Aug 2014 02:37:24 -0500America/ChicagovAmerica/Chicago8 by Greven because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio
ii think the recent bottomless holes in the Russian Tundra are connected with the Methane volcanoes on the Arctic seabed

but something beneath the crustal plate is causing the methane to migrate to the surface...


is there a very large 'hot spot' of the Mantle convection current causing the Arctic to out-gas all those formerly trapped pockets of methane under the Ice?

my brain says Yes... we just need the scientific community to voice Its theory


Unfortunately, the scientific community is a little too hush on this subject. Methane is releasing due to the planet warming. As temperatures rise, it creates environments for more methane to release, such as moist wetlands that produce methane-producing bacteria, warming ocean temps that thaw out frozen methane crystals (hydrates or clathrates) stored at the bottoms, etc. It's 25 times more potent at trapping the sun's heat than is carbon dioxide. As more methane releases, it creates a blanket around our planet trapping the sun's heat and obviously, we have a dangerous cycle that continues to get worse.

There's tons of information out there on the subject if one searches for it. Simply Google a few terms with methane and you'll get it. There are some organizations out there that are keeping an eye on this problem. There are a couple of threads in my signature that I wrote on it that explains what is happening in much greater detail. I also have quite a few more threads on the topic in my profile. Much of what I write about this topic is backed up with links, and a lot of other stuff may be my opinions, but that is also based on the evidence.

And VoidHawk, you're very naive if you think these methane releases are normal. You're trying to hard to make people feel all warm and cozy inside. These methane releases are anything but a usual process. You need to do some research.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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As methane holds 20 time more heat in than CO2, the best thing to do is have the methane burn, CO2 is good for plants, hold less heat in than methane.
Nice advert in Google for CO2 manufacture by machines for sale to green house growers. How weird is that?



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

I did a thread on it in 2012 the articles title was: Global Extinction within one Human Lifetime

People said the article was just a scare piece or doom porn. It was simply an article I had run across warning of the possible implications of accelerated methane release. Interesting thing about methane is even though it has a shorter half life than co2 when more is added the half life increases.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.


The perp in the greatest mass extinction on earth? Methane

Of course it doesn't surprise me that there are those who will call it hogwash especially when you have things like this.

Creationists Team Up With Climate Deniers To Take Down Science Education.

They don't just forget history they will also deny it.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: arjunanda

THANK YOU!!!
For the life of me I couldn't remember his/her name and it was driving me wild! I'd read his/her threads and knew Rezlooper was much more conversant on this topic than I am.

The normal earth cycles are going to outweigh anything, for the most part, than any stunt humanity can pull. We haven't been around long enough to gauge things long term, we can only guesstimate.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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I must be missing something. We're pulverizing the earth's crust with fracking to get at natural gas deposits deep underground, while the oceans are essentially farting it out freely? I know we can't stop the release but there should be a way to capture and use some of it. Same with fresh meltwater. Big Oil, Big Gas, Big Coal, etc could not only continue to make gazillions of dollars, but do it in a way that doesn't s# the bed. Invest in FartCo, save the planet!



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Caver78

The way things are going perhaps a nuclear war followed by a nuclear winter might buy us some time!



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: johnsequitur1221
Invest in FartCo, save the planet!


You might be on to something...

Maybe we could use this methane for an energy source? It would need a long infrastructure of wires to bring this power towards the south but the energy could be transformed from very close to the source, partially eliminating the evil effects of methane into a lesser evil...

If possible, we should turn this bad situation into an advantage.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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Who run barter town?

What did that run on again?

Post apoc friends meet u there


Two men enter


a reply to: theMediator



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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I forgot about Barter Town!! ROFL!!



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: Another_Nut
Who run barter town?
What did that run on again?
Post apoc friends meet u there
Two men enter


Is that you Master Blaster?



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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www.ucar.edu...
Recent satellite data suggests that there are more than 3 million lightning flashes worldwide per day, or more than 30 flashes per second on average. This includes flashes within or between clouds as well as flashes extending from cloud to ground. The amount of lightning found by satellites is considerably less than scientists once thought existed across the planet.

Ahhhhhhh, can I ask if there are around 3 million lightning flashes A DAY wouldn't that trigger the methane before it had a chance to build up to the point where a GLOBAL fireball caused mass extinction.

Hi Five, critical thinkin'.



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: Rezlooper Good to "see you" again Rezlooper! I wish more folks would read the info you provide and your threads relevant to this subject and as you say....google in regards to Methane and the tons of info out there....lots of facts, theories and such but regardless, it is ridiculous to deny that there is a lot going on relevant to methane and a lot we still don't know. Research in this area is so important....both, from the scientific community standpoint and folks in general.

I think some folks don't realize that if something goes terribly wrong involving methane, it could cause troubles for this beautiful planet of ours and the people on it...problems beyond what some can even imagine. Thanx again for all your research and efforts Rez. Best always!



posted on Aug, 3 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: Caver78

The way things are going perhaps a nuclear war followed by a nuclear winter might buy us some time!





We won't need a nuclear war...the volcanoes will give us nuclear winter. Volcanoes increasing due to global warming? Yes, because as land ice melts it adds pressure to the thin continental shelves in the oceans and decreases pressure on the land mass. The result of this is increased earthquakes, especially in otherwise strange places, and increased volcanoes and not only on land, but submarine as well (and those are the ones we're not entirely aware of). An average year sees about 60 volcanic eruptions per year while 2013 saw 83. This year is also on course for a similar number. Also, earthquakes for the first quarter in 2014 doubled the number for the same time in 2013. Study shows quakes double in 2014

One bonus if we get nuclear winter from volcanoes is that it will slow down the global warming...but that will only be a temporary fix as volcanic eruptions add a whole lot more methane into the mix.



posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 05:00 AM
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Sounds like another great upheaval due to the dramatic tectonic plate movement.I like to just offer my thoughts on threads like this..by the way OP,great job!..thanks.

As i have always championed,the plate movement is down to a magnetic interference from a celestial body (Planet X) all the events on Earth,whether there may be plate movement,which in turn creates the volcanoes and earthquakes,which then in turn disturb rock layers releasing the methane,loud hums/booms/frequencies-which are generated by rock friction (the MSM is deliberately failing to link all these incidents together)

Also including/categorizing the magnetic field,axial and polar deviations of the planet,wild atmospheric weather,mass die offs (caused by methane release),draining lakes,building collapses-gas/water main ruptures-dams cracking-train derailments (this is all down to the plates) meteorite increase,second sun sightings,very suspect SOHO images,moon phases and path well off the so called norm,also the Suns path and position at sunrise/set-check for yourselves,the list is seemingly endless,there is certainly a lot i have left out.

Check my thread on Planet X.

Here are a few links to shed light on the cause of this methane release and also the 'milky white substance' that is being reported globally.

poleshift.ning.com...

poleshift.ning.com...





posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 07:53 AM
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Reading this thread made me shudder.

These methane reserves are a sleeping giant, and over time their effects can only snowball. We might start to feel the effects in our lifetime but that's peanuts compared to what will happen millions of years into the future. For all we know we could be witnessing the beginning of the end for life on this planet.



posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I think millions of years in the future is the least of our problems. The methane hydrate problem is right here right now and we may see it happening in our lifetime. If I am honest I think this is coming sooner than we think. It is a feedback loop that will grow exponentially.



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