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Key members of ISIS it now emerges were trained by US CIA and Special Forces command at a secret camp in Jordan in 2012, according to informed Jordanian officials. The US, Turkish and Jordanian intelligence were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region, conveniently near the borders to both Syria and Iraq. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the two Gulf monarchies most involved in funding the war against Syria’s Assad, financed the Jordan ISIS training.
Advertised publicly as training of ‘non-extremist’ Muslim jihadists to wage war against the Syrian Bashar Assad regime, the secret US training camps in Jordan and elsewhere have trained perhaps several thousand Muslim fighters in techniques of irregular warfare, sabotage and general terror. The claims by Washington that they took special care not to train ‘Salafist’ or jihadist extremists, is a joke. How do you test if a recruit is not a jihadist? Is there a special jihad DNA that the CIA doctors have discovered?
Former US State Department official Andrew Doran wrote in the conservative National Review magazine that some ISIS warriors also hold US passports. Now, of course that doesn’t demonstrate and support by the Obama Administration. Hmm... Iranian journalist Sabah Zanganeh notes, "ISIS did not have the power to occupy and conquer Mosul by itself. What has happened is the result of security-intelligence collaborations of some regional countries with some extremist groups inside the Iraqi government."
For the faction that controls the Pentagon, the military industry and the oil industry, the Cold War never ended. It went on 'below the radar' creating a global network of bases and conflicts to advance their long-term goal of Full Spectrum Dominance, the total control of the planet: land, sea, air, space, outer space and cyberspace. Their methods included control of propaganda, use of NGOs for regime change, Color Revolutions to advance NATO east, and a vast array of psychological and economic warfare techniques, a Revolution in Military Affairs as they termed it. The events of September 11, 2001 would allow an American President to declare a war on an enemy who was everywhere and nowhere, who justified a Patriot Act that destroyed that very freedom in the name of the new worldwide War on Terror. This book gives a disturbing look at that strategy of Full Spectrum Dominance.
Media tries to convince the gullible that ISIS armed themselves by just walking into Iraq and stealing weaponry but any war needs a continuous supply of weapons, fuel, food and water.
After a degree in politics from Princeton University (USA), and graduate study in comparative economics at the University of Stockholm, he worked as an independent economist and research journalist in New York and later in Europe, covering subjects including the politics of energy policy in the USA and worldwide; GATT Uruguay Round trade talks, EU food policies, the grain trade monopoly, IMF policy, Third World debt issues, hedge funds and the Asia crisis
Engdahl contributes regularly to a number of international publications on economics and political affairs including Asia Times, FinancialSense.com, 321.gold.com, The Real News, Russia Today TV, Asia Inc., GlobalResearch.com, Japan's Nihon Keizai Shimbun, Foresight magazine. He has been a frequent contributor to the New York Grant'sInvestor.com, European Banker and Business Banker International and Freitag and ZeitFragen in Germany, Globus in Croatia. He has been interviewed on various geopolitical topics on numerous international TV and radio programs including Al Jazeera, CCTV and Sina.com (China), CCTV (China) Korea Broadcasting System (KBS), and RT Russian TV. He is a Research Associate of Michel Chossudovsky’s well-respected Centre for Research on Globalization in Montreal, Canada and member of the editorial board of Eurasia magazine.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
Here is a basic backing up of what I have said in the above post, what I can find that is correct in english so far anyway...
One of the reasons the funding of ISIS (Daesh) is so much in question by everyone, is the amount of cash flow they have had since day one. If they had only the same funding sources as Al-Qaeda, then they would not be able to throw around the cash like they have been, and they have literally been doing it since day 1.
As highlighted in this article, the group employs a 5 part strategy - the 4th part is as follows:
4. Flood the area with cash: Once it has intimidated the population, ISIS floods the area with cash to establish local dependency. Its operatives overpay at restaurants and spend extravagant amounts on basic goods from local markets. This restarts a stagnant local economy where few can afford to spend on more than basic necessities. “A man from Dagestan comes here every few days,” one shop owner in the Idlib village of Salqin reported, “First he bought a Samsung Galaxy, a week later he bought an iPad, and then he bought a newer model of the Samsung Galaxy. He must have spent more than $1,000.”
This amount of cash is unheard of in war in the middle east. You not only have to take care of your fighters feed them clothe them, pay them at least something for their families etc - but you have to have the funds for weapons and bullets etc. Just getting enough cash for all that is difficult, and many groups cannot get enough funds to sustain much fighting al-Qaeda groups usually have enough funds for just that, and little to no more - and they are the best funded anywhere in the middle east ... but suddenly a group pops into the picture that can not only afford the basics of war, but they have cash aplenty for flooding the local populations with it.
Guarenteed, they have some exceedingly wealthy backers, who are not of the normal variety. That is the door through which the US and Israel funding accusations come into play..... although that is not the only reason for the accusations.
warontherocks.com...
This article here:
english.al-akhbar.com...
Highlights the split and some of the fighting between al-qaeda and ISIS. This is where and why ISIS and Al-Qaeda split, they had two different ways - and ISIS went its way, without al-Qaeda. And Zawahiri has made more than one public condemnation of ISIS on this point alone, and al-baghdadi made his public condemnation of Zawahiri on this point in return... The back and forths are only found in arabic I think, cannot find them in english anywhere.
(ISIS really likes killing Muslims - another reason many are saying they are working hand in hand with Israel and US)
Another point about money and where it came from in the beginning is: You will not be able to find, even though Daesh has been accused more than once of accepting funding from Israel, any denial of this accusation... which in and of itself is strange. They should at least be denying it, yet I have not seen any explicit denials yet.
All the above is why I question who is really backing Daesh (ISIS).
It is NOT Iran, Iran supports the Iraqi government, at least as long as they could although now they are calling for a government that the sunni and the shia can agree upon since that was cause for much support for Daesh in the Sunni crowd, and Iran also supports Assad.(heavily) Iran helps to fund both in their fight against Daesh.
originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: Painterz
I think he has more credibility than you are giving him. This information is from Veterans Today.
www.veteranstoday.com...
After a degree in politics from Princeton University (USA), and graduate study in comparative economics at the University of Stockholm, he worked as an independent economist and research journalist in New York and later in Europe, covering subjects including the politics of energy policy in the USA and worldwide; GATT Uruguay Round trade talks, EU food policies, the grain trade monopoly, IMF policy, Third World debt issues, hedge funds and the Asia crisis
Engdahl contributes regularly to a number of international publications on economics and political affairs including Asia Times, FinancialSense.com, 321.gold.com, The Real News, Russia Today TV, Asia Inc., GlobalResearch.com, Japan's Nihon Keizai Shimbun, Foresight magazine. He has been a frequent contributor to the New York Grant'sInvestor.com, European Banker and Business Banker International and Freitag and ZeitFragen in Germany, Globus in Croatia. He has been interviewed on various geopolitical topics on numerous international TV and radio programs including Al Jazeera, CCTV and Sina.com (China), CCTV (China) Korea Broadcasting System (KBS), and RT Russian TV. He is a Research Associate of Michel Chossudovsky’s well-respected Centre for Research on Globalization in Montreal, Canada and member of the editorial board of Eurasia magazine.
originally posted by: JoeSignal
a reply to: glend
You have to educate me, bros, me not being an american citizen and all. It seems to me that you can just about sue for anything in america, right?
Why, oh, why can you not sue your own government for training these people? Whether they had planned to not train jihadists and salafists or not? If I started a "warrior school" in my country and said that I was only training the "right kind of people", wouldn't I still be incarcerated for training terrorists? Isn't your government a legal entity? Legally a link to these US camps can be made. Then legally the US can be charged for war crimes against their own people/soldiers?
Let's not try to play along with the Zionists, fighting them in their war. They have the strongest weapons. We have numbers. Or at least we still got numbers, in about ten years from now, we won't be as many as we are now. The war will end when the last of us try to fight with their methods.
originally posted by: JoeSignal
a reply to: glend
You have to educate me, bros, me not being an american citizen and all. It seems to me that you can just about sue for anything in america, right?
Why, oh, why can you not sue your own government for training these people? Whether they had planned to not train jihadists and salafists or not? If I started a "warrior school" in my country and said that I was only training the "right kind of people", wouldn't I still be incarcerated for training terrorists? Isn't your government a legal entity? Legally a link to these US camps can be made. Then legally the US can be charged for war crimes against their own people/soldiers?
Let's not try to play along with the Zionists, fighting them in their war. They have the strongest weapons. We have numbers. Or at least we still got numbers, in about ten years from now, we won't be as many as we are now. The war will end when the last of us try to fight with their methods.