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Former Senator Says Huge Breakthrough Is Coming With Classified 9/11 Information

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posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: celerygeneral

What celerygeneral said, in spades!

Mr. Congresscritter is just another in a long line of useful idiots; notice how young he is, still wet behind the ears. So they show him something with 'classified' written on top of it in red ink, and he gets all excited because there's something in there about the Saudis?

Weren't most of the 'hijackers' supposed to be Saudis? Sorry, there's not much there there except to provide some kind of sleight of hand to keep the OS going. Big freekin' deal, the Bush Crime Family, Cheney and Halliburton, and the Saudis. Wow, what a surprise. Only someone unconscious wouldn't have known this.

Here's the gig, kiddies; it was nukes, okay? Nothing else fits the evidence, small tactical nukes like the US and several other countries have had for DECADES now. No fancy space beam weapon, no laughable thousands of tons of thermite (did every one of the missing 1000 people, every desk, chair, phone, filing cabinet, computer, room divider, vending machine and toilet, as well as the myriad of office contents never found in the rubble also have thermite charges place up against them?) Nukes accounts for the blast effect of the outer aluminum cladding and 'chex' assemblies being blown out laterally 100s of feet, the steel in them steaming/smoking all the way. It wasn't smoke BTW, it was the steel boiling off from the residual millions of degrees of a nuclear weapon, and the gamma ray bombardment. The massive dust cloud was the cement floors, and all those office contents, and people, vaporizing. It was hot enough to melt firetruck ladders on the street below and people nearby reported seeing people vaporize or disintegrate. That black cloud you see rising slowly from the center is the vaporized massive core beams. Other beams, turned to taffy. In 10 seconds or less, how many degrees is that? How much thermite needed, hmmm? Gravity, fire, thermite, thermate, don't do that. Finally, there's the sustained heat in the pile for 99 days afterwards, hot enough to melt metal, dirt, glass and the actual bedrock under the towers, no matter how much water and Pyrocool was poured on it, millions of gallons, until every last bit of toxic debris containing the daughter products of fission was carted away by unsuspecting thousands of workers.

What part of THIS doesn't tell you EVERYTHING you need to know? Watch a psychopath at work, watch and remember, there will be more of them unless we eliminate them all, now, and keep a watchful eye for the rest of history.



Now watch this, again and again and again if you have to. Tell me what other weapon on earth has this power? Ten floors a second... 1000 people gone, evaporated. A steaming toxic pile of debris... 1000s of responders now with cancer or dead already.

NYC was nuked and don't think they won't do it again if it suits them. Because terrorism is big business and the current owners of the United States of America are the Fourth Reich and their buddies the bankers and the corporations.


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posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 11:26 PM
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It was an inside job and they are trying to depopulate us as best they can covertly.Africa for a petri dish is their first big play since.



posted on Aug, 4 2014 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: signalfire

Where is the EMP then? I know tactical nukes are a favorite of the demolition theorists, but, where are all the signatures of a nuclear detonation?



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
where are all the signatures of a nuclear detonation?


None of them are there, no EMP, no blast, no radiation, no heat etc. Just another conspiracy theory not based on anything factual at all.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

There were reports that day of the failure of the radios belonging to NYC authorities, police and firemen. That is one possible effect of EMP.

The strangely burnt vehicles on the street are evidence of the intense but very short-lived heat, as are the reports from many regarding feeling heat on their backs as they fled the area.

The epidemiology of those working at GROUND ZERO is solid evidence of a radiation event.

The 90 day+ duration of molten iron is pretty darn similar to what was reported at Chernobyl, another nuclear event.

Matt Tartaglia, RIP, reported that where he was working on the pile, there were nuclear decontamination protocols being used.

It was nuclear.



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

We're talking a series of very small nukes, the size of baseballs, calculated to have the blast power to take out the core, out to the sidewalls (100 foot radius in a 209 foot building); there WERE reports of a local EMP, cars in the area were reported to burst into flames as people tried to outrun the dust cloud (the engines, not the gas tanks, gamma radiation superheating the metal in the engines?), if you look at some of the video at the time there's glitches in the recordings, many police and firemen reported that their radios went completely dead for several minutes (and were told that 'the dust cloud was so thick, the radios wouldn't work), and Jeff Prager and others have documented the amount of daughter products of fission in the dust particles; the USGS did the analysis of this but didn't know what they were seeing. I've posted the links to that numerous times already on this site, here's one of them: Jeff Prager - DUST

Prager's work is a marvel of scientific proof and reasoning, based on the USGS's own initial research and documented evidence (unlike Steven Jones who didn't have chain of custody for his samples and even though he is a nuclear physicist, refuses to debate Prager on the matter. Like the 'cold fusion' debacle, he's likely a government plant, a 'Plan C' as outlined above. Thermite may have been used to cut some large beams but it doesn't have the explosive power to do what we see in the videos and aftermath, and if somehow the tens of thousands of tons of thermite were in those buildings, they would have looked like a magnesium torch burning, not what we saw. The thermite crowd never explains the differential between how thermite looks when it's reacting, and how the towers looked...





Notice how Steven Jones' video of thermite reacting looks NOTHING like the towers. Whereas the bright microsecond flash of nukes would have been hidden in the core, the slower and far less energetic reaction of thermite would have looked like a massive torch. The steel microspheres would have been produced in either event.

And this (gamma rays and neutrons pass right through paper...but react strongly with metal and water, meaning people) Notice in these videos and the comments below them that people are grasping at straws to try to explain what they are seeing; but unless ALL the evidence is accounted for, you don't yet have a solution (and a thermite theory put in front of a jury would dead end nicely); Judy Wood's DEW weapon and the Hutchison effect also don't look like what we see here. It's really quite extraordinary - no one wants to see a nuclear effect, as if somehow a technology we've had since 1944, and which has been in continuous research since that time, and with tactical nukes now used routinely in war, was somehow unthinkable or impossible.



Oh, and you can always tell a shill or the ubiquitous government plants - one liners thrown out there, hackneyed insults, without any information or evidence being discussed....
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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 09:12 AM
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posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: signalfire
a reply to: cardinalfan0596

We're talking a series of very small nukes, the size of baseballs,


No such thing exists, so again off in to the realm of fantasy. Like the claims of explosives, thermite etc.


cars in the area were reported to burst into flames as people tried to outrun the dust cloud (the engines, not the gas tanks, gamma radiation superheating the metal in the engines?)


Source for that? no sign of gamma rays at all.


if you look at some of the video at the time there's glitches in the recordings, many police and firemen reported that their radios went completely dead for several minutes


not EMP then - as if it was a EMP their radio's would be still dead.


Prager's work is a marvel of scientific proof and reasoning,


No, it is just more made up truther nonsense!


The thermite crowd never explains the differential between how thermite looks when it's reacting, and how the towers looked...


Well, the mini nuke crowd have never explained why the towers do not look at all like a nuke went off!


and with tactical nukes now used routinely in war,


Care to show where tactical nukes have been used in war?



posted on Aug, 5 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: FinalCountdown
a reply to: CALGARIAN

I wish I had the billions required to rebuild the twin towers in a controlled environment.
Crash the same model planes into to same spots, using the same thrust, etc.
You could run this experiment 50 times on 50 different sets. I guarantee that the buildings would be damaged at their tops but still standing.

What a huge coordinated effort it must have been to rig these buildings with explosives prior to 9/11.

Inside job from every angle.


You don't need to rebuild them full size. You could use a scale model RC model of those aircraft along with a scale model of the twin towers. So long as the construction materials were the same, you should get the same mix of chemicals.

Alternatively, you could use FEA/FEM (Finite Element Analysis/Finite Element Modelling) which uses a computer to do the simulation of how fast different parts of the steel structure, fuel, and aircraft break apart, heat up and melt.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 02:25 AM
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a reply to: Salander

EMP, would have taken OUT the radios and cameras. Not just interrupted them. As for the radiation, Americium 241 and beryllium are found in residential and commercial fire detection systems. So, I sure in the hell would hope that decontamination protocols were being used. When those detectors are damaged and set on fire, they become HUGE health hazards. If you look hard enough, you will find OTHER items used in a modern office building that contain similar materials.

Then, the molten ALUMINUM, aluminum subjected to a crude blast furnace effect of being in a hole, with fire, supplied with air from PATH tunnels......to be expected.


AND an addition. Since the FDNY and NYPD radio repeaters were in the Towers.....I wonder WHY they might have radio issues when said repeaters are in a building that is collapsing..........
edit on 6-8-2014 by cardinalfan0596 because: Remembered where FDNY had its radio repeaters.



posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 02:41 AM
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GW Bush flew planes full of Saudis and Bin Laden family members out of the USA when all planes were still grounded on Sept. 12-13, 2001. And Bush had Prince Bandar his buddy over to the house later that night. STRANGE TIMING

"When Bandar arrived at the White House on Thursday, September 13, 2001, he and President Bush retreated to the Truman Balcony, a casual outdoor spot behind the pillars of the South Portico that also provided a bit of privacy. Over the years, any history made on the Truman Balcony had transpired in informal conversation. In 1992, nine years earlier, President Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, had walked out on the balcony with Boris Yeltsin, the first democratically elected president of Russia, to celebrate the end of the Cold War. In 1993, after First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton put an end to smoking in the White House, Bill Clinton would sometimes retreat there to smoke a cigar in a celebratory moment, as he did after the United States rescued a soldier in Bosnia.

This occasion may have marked the beginning of a new era, but Bandar and President Bush had nothing to celebrate. Thousands of Americans were dead. They had been killed in a terrorist operation largely run by Saudis. Nonetheless, the two men each lit up a Cohiba and began to discuss how they would work together in the war on terror.

This turns my stomach.



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posted on Aug, 6 2014 @ 02:55 AM
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Not quite...in regards to the flights taken Saudis out of the country...

www.snopes.com...

"These flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI. For example, one flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. Screening of this flight was directed by an FBI agent in the Baltimore Field Office who was also a pilot...The Bin Ladin flight and other flights we examined were screened in accordance with policies set by FBI Headquarters and coordinated through working-level interagency processes. Although most of the passengers were not interviewed, 22 of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin fllight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions."



posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

If it had been molten aluminum, the air samples collected would have shown microparticles from the molten aluminum.

Sadly for your position, the air samples collected by DELTA Group showed microparticles of iron, suggesting the boiling metal was boiling iron, NOT aluminum.

I know from personal experience that aluminum cools very quickly, so something is up. I suspect the ratio of iron to aluminum used in those buildings was probably more than 100 to 1.

As to the radiation, gamma radiation is detectable by a Geiger counter, but that instrument CANNOT detect neutron radiation, the likely culprit here.

As to the EMP taking out the radios completely, I suspect there are strong EMP, and weak EMP. That is, I suspect there are qualitative differences between what EMP might be generated, depending upon many factors.

After all, secret nuclear R&D has been conducted for half a century. I suspect they've made great strides in technology and weapon characteristics.



posted on Aug, 8 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: signalfire

Thank you for your reply! You really summed it up!! I'm right on board with everything you just said. You are exactly right, my friend. Thank you for your post. Excellent.
lol @ that 15 sec clip of Bush. Doesn't that really just sum it right up? Holy cow.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 12:38 AM
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Have you yet noticed the continued trail of supposition and assumptions that get created in conspiracy theories? Each time a flaw is pointed out, another assumption is added. EMP, is EMP. Not to mention, we then get back to the problem of your bad guys being able to get their devices into each of the buildings with no one noticing that their offices were torn apart.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

How hard is it to introduce a suitcase or briefcase into a building?

How hard is it to introduce anything into a building when one controls the security apparatus inside the building?

We're not talking about Little Boy here, we're talking about devices that are the result of decades of R&D.



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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into each of the buildings with no one noticing that their offices were torn apart.


construction was ongoing at the complex 24-7-365.....who would notice?



posted on Aug, 9 2014 @ 04:04 PM
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Could someone check out my thread in The introductions thread on this matter? Much appreciate it.



posted on Aug, 10 2014 @ 05:05 AM
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I remember the art students....

Israeli art students

and while they will let you post in any forum after 20 posts, the 9-11 forum is different......they go by the WATS points....and they decide how that is done...so you may never be able to author a thread in the 9-11 forum.



posted on Aug, 10 2014 @ 05:13 AM
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Have you yet noticed the continued trail of supposition and assumptions that get created in conspiracy theories?



"the phenomenon that we saw on 9/11 that brought this particular building down was really thermal expansion, which occurs at lower temperatures."
Shyam Sunder at NIST technical briefing

NO suppositions or assumptions here.....the 2008 NIST hypothesis crew on video at their OWN technical briefing claiming that WTC7 fell because of a brand new NEVER BEFORE seen phenomenon called "low temp thermal expansion"

new science that removed 105 vertical feet of LOAD BEARING continuous vertical support....
8 floors of truss assemblies with carrier beams...
lateral, cross, and diagonal bracing throughout...
tens of thousands of bolts and welds...
Interior partitions...
office contents...
utilities....

ALL before 1.75 seconds of the GLOBAL UNIFIED collapse to allow the found CONSTANT acceleration equal to g. for the next 2.3 seconds or 105 vertical feet or 8 stories.

from fire no one sees.


[NCSTAR1A-3.2]"It is likely that much of the burning took place beyond the views of the windows"



which they REFUSE to verify, validate, PEER REVIEW outside the authors.


so why do you run from dealing with these FACTS of the official claims PUSHED to the American people?




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