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And that is the primary concept at the core of traditional conservatism.
Originally posted by RANT Libertarians are anti-Federalists. Period.
Originally posted by RANT
Libertarians are anti-Federalists. Period. They don't exclude liberalism or conservatism.
They are anti-authoritarian (liberal) AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, and fiscal conservatives AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, but in your state or town...anything goes.
Originally posted by RANT
Sorry, I'm in a mood.
PS - You're never going to win.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by RANT
Libertarians are anti-Federalists. Period.
And that is the primary concept at the core of traditional conservatism.
Originally posted by RANT
It's more an underlying philosopy than a unifying movement. )
Originally posted by Amuk
Damn Rant, do you need a Midol?
Originally posted by Amuk
I guess my gripe is not really Libertarians being called conservative but with Republicans being called conserative
Originally posted by RANT
Libertarians are anti-Federalists.
Originally posted by cavscout
I don't think we fit well into the left/right spectrum, although I have heard many people describe us as right-wing extremists but never left wing anything.
2. b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties
Originally posted by Amuk
That is one of the reasons I brought this thread up. I have heard the right describe us as dope smoking hippy anarcists and the left describe us as gun toting milita members and just wondered who most thought we were and more important what WE thought we were.
Originally posted by cavscout
Originally posted by RANT
Libertarians are anti-Federalists.
This statement is true, however you seem to think that anti-federalism is our defining philosophy, and I disagree. Anti-federalism is a product of our defining philosophy, which is one of non-initiation of force. We are against the initiation of force even when it comes from state and local governments. Granted we would like to see much of the authority the federal government has claimed for itself returned to the state, that would not make the states power over its residents absolute. Things like New York?s gun laws and mandatory taxation would be opposed by Libertarians no matter how local the government that instated them was.
Amuk, although I don't think we fit well into the modern definitions of liberal and conservative, I think most Libertarians came from the Republican Party and would return to it if they for some reason absolutely had to make the choice. I don't think we fit well into the left/right spectrum, although I have heard many people describe us as right-wing extremists but never left wing anything.
I would say instead of moderates who take their ideas from the middle, we grab ideas from the far right and far left and bring them to the middle.