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Pentagon Official: The Facts Are In, And Obama’s Policy Is A Direct Danger To The United States

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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The OP source is a misleading joke - "anonymous insider" from the Pentagon - you mean a blogger making stuff up. Then there is the grossly erroneous quotes from the ND report.

Read the report, it places the blame squarely on sequestration, Obama is not even mentioned until very nearly the end of the report.

Luckily a few members of this site still have a working brain and can remember who it was that led the U.S. into default (the Republicans), led the U.S. into an artificial debt-ceiling crisis (the Republicans) and led the U.S. into getting it's credit rating slashed (the Republicans), and obstructed Congress from doing its job from passing a budget (yet again the Republicans).

This report is only reflecting the budget cuts mandated by the sequestration. That was a fallout of all those Republican hijinks from a few years backs. As they say, what goes around comes around.

PS: The false claim this was a "Pentagon Official" speaking "anonymously" while misinterpreting the report should land this post in the hoax bin.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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I have been "lol"ing over some of the replies.
(Sarah Palin porn?)

If everyone has calmed down, perhaps we can discuss this.

Personally, I think we could reduce our military budget by another 50% and still fight on two fronts, if we had responsible leadership.

It's not the "amount" of money being spent that is an issue. It is where and how it is being spent that is the issue.

Congress along with the president dictate spending. The facts are the facts. The US is in a dangerous place because we have a civilian leadership that does not know how to lead.

The progressives will blame Bush, congress, talk-radio, Fox News, while everyone else will blame Obama (who actually is the president. For real. No lie! He is the president!)

But what of solutions?


We've identified the problem. How do we fix it?



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Just so everyone is clear ... progressive=liberal=Democrat=Un-American=communist=fascist=George Soros=Alinsky=Nazis=undead-alien-babyeaters.

Oh wait, left one off ... "=BS."

All "progressives" do not agree with all "liberals" who do not agree with "all Democrats" etc. etc.

I do not, of course, expect such obvious facts to make any difference to the ATS Amen Corner.




The confirmation bias seeking gets closer and closer to instant gratification for that crowd these days, I suppose they always thought foreplay was useless anyway. They don't want to know the facts of anything, satisfy them NOW! FOXurbation.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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Direct danger to the United States? Sure sure. Don't worry America still has nukes!

Direct danger to defense contractor billion dollar contracts more like it. They want to sell sell sell and make $ $ $. They will say anything for contracts and big billion dollar profits. Cheney and Haliburton it's all business.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

It's not the "amount" of money being spent that is an issue. It is where and how it is being spent that is the issue.

We've identified the problem. How do we fix it?


Umm... quit trying to fix the world's problems and expecting to take a cut out of everyone's pie?? But I guess that is just what empires do.

There is some old adage about glass houses and I know our governmental offspring are fond of throwing stones. Sheesh, and now we live in such a hostile neighborhood. Whodda thunk it?

All is not lost though. We could clean house then pull a media blitz to tell the world we've reformed. We might have to go through the motions and pretend like we mean it, leave out some cookies and milk, maybe quit pushing Aspartame and let everyone label GMO's and stuff like that. We might have to slap a few fingers in public, roll up a newpaper and bang it around shouting "Bad dog!" All that might work but I don't think we can keep playing Nazi Nanny without at least dressing her up like Heidi for awhile.

Man, I am not sure that old inner tube can be patched many more times. We may have to install a new one so we can keep riding our old favorite bike. We might be able to remain the Mountain Bike King but we would really have to try to steer clear of riding though the briar patches.

Now, do I trust our system is going to usher in the right kind of leadership to keep us on top of the heap, and respectable? Um, yeah, sure! I am right here behind you, just keeping a safe distance outside the border. Let's go for it!



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

We could just Pull Everyone back Home, and start fixing things here! Hold down the Fort while the infastucture in the US has an Update.

Instead of our Troops getting killed over pointless wars; let the UN do it! Then we can fix the things that might come and Bite us in the @ss later. With all that money being spent overseas, it can stay here and use it for other causes.

Lets see what is outdated, or has been taken for granted for such a long time it could be our downfall. Energy! With all the Brains Science has; think again, always seems to be Stumped somehow. We all know oil is in short supply, some will claim we have back-ups yet I do not think it will be used for the normal everyday Joe.

Now Fresh Water is going to be one big problem in the years ahead! The one's who use Bottled Water and actually buy it is ............! One could just go get a filter you know. Being that the Ice caps Are melting, pump the sea water for sewer waste! Surely one can turn sea water into Drinking Water if given the chance or the money to do this.

Science never Thinks about say 10 yrs ahead, always a quick fix to something that Should Have been taken care of in the first place. Somehow 10 yrs later it won't matter; we'll Fix It then! Solar and Wind is a start, some whine about wind causing poor views and kills many of birds in flight. Hello? Could just make them smaller and be used at every home in the US. Save the big ones for later; Just in case!

As for gas for said auto's, there is at least 2 cars for every person in the US alone. Stop making them and find other ways to fuel them. Surely as the Tail goes; a person did just that! Got over 100 miles a gal if not more then Vanished although someone; did manage to grab said car!

It seems we might have to leave Science for DIY ideas! Science is still having problems/issues concerning finding god for some reason! Hello? Right in front of you in all things; no need to get any Smaller! Just by one spending $2,500 all the Elect one would ever need, or cut down on waste by turning off your elect switches when not home. Thats why We Have Switches!

Could put out Troops to work building a rail system from NY to CA. Anything then sending them off to some other country and waging war! If every Country would just mind their P's and Q's; send food if needed all would be better then it is. Yet it's a rush for Power, what one can get for themselves before someone else does! WW3 is nothing but Having it All, being in Control of said World anyways.

What Good will it be if say we blow it up, heat it up, or drill it to Death! Things are dying at an alarming rate in the Seas; Nope! No Problem there, All's Well! Science has no idea Whatsoever How to deal with it; Let's make an Ice Wall! It would seem having Brains leads to Stupid Ideas!

So Far to date being Stupid is Bringing Eboli to the US. That goes to show you its time to Rethink on how Stupid our GOV is! If that is Not Treason, What Is? Since if it Did happen to get out; odds are...........placing bets! First thing would be to contain it so as Cheap as they are. A small nuke will have to do.

Peace



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: pennydrops

And people here in the US wonder WHY we are so hated! hate might be a cold word to use yet just wait until They Come to your house!

Swat teams come without asking and do not need any paperwork whatsoever. It seems everyday someone just walking down the street is next to get an Lashing from the Po Po. What I do not Understand is Why No Riots! There Testing our Responces, seeing how far one can cross the line and so far haven't had any problems!

I Understand what your saying, Karma is coming to Collect said Dues soon from the US. One thing Helping yet using that Help just to get ones foot over there is evil. And if the US can't enter; just goes to some other place and funds another war to get to ya.

What they claim anyways; see it on the News. Think Otherwise.

Peace



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

End wars of aggressions. Demand war crimes trials of our oligarchy. Obama just admitted we violated Geneva conventions on torture. The idea of civilized war is a false ideal, if not one of the biggest lies ever sold to humanity as beneficial. Google dead Palestinian and IsraelI children images, and remember that could have been your children, if born a few GPS coordinates differently.

Redirect military budget into the army Corp of Engineers, and make mass hydroponics based factory farming to provide near free organic food for all. Call a con con, and incorporate all treaties that enumerate human rights into a 21st century Bill of rights, including womans rights. Enforce via the militia with congressional direction in court rooms, demanding judges follow Article 6, US constitution.

Promote reconstitution of common law people's Grand Juries. Clean out UN corruption, allow the ICJ to being doing its intended job.

Promote secular 21St century common law, and codify it.

I have many many many ideas.

Titan calls. The only justified wars, should be the war on wars.

Edit¦ I am a person, domiciled within the united States. You, the military, work for me and follow MY laws. If you are not going to support and defend my constitution and treaties signed on my behalf for our benefit, then every aspect of our military can be defunded and disbanded down to bare minimums until they remember who is in charge. We the people. The only reason I allowed for growth of our military without question was that I was under the impression that my Constitution was under threat from a foreign power, and your only purpose was to support and defend it. Boy, was I wrong. Wars only purpose is to continue fending the war machine.

This is my world. You will hear me ROAR.


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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: LittleByLittle

Actually. One of the main reasons Companys moved was because most are Lazy and do not want to work. Next comes the ones who do work, yet do nothing while at work.

US created a system on Being Told what to do vs. Using ones head and getting it done, some can not even read, have problems remembering yesterday and a large number are Taking Pill's if not 2-3 everyday. Cell Phones should be BANNED at work unless one actually needs one!

Plus we toss/waste so much in the US it could feed every single child on this Planet! Just look at the very large people in the US! Over 1/2 are overweight! Even some of the children are butterballs! While children in other places have nothing but bones for a body!

Worst case is You Can't eat Them, Move them nor explain How it is wrong! Yet no one seems to care if said bum on a street asking for a quarter; Don't even look at them! Yet take that bum, clean him up and dress nice and people will give! See YT's QuietAssassins Real Homeless Man Experiment.

Peace



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Erongaricuaro
Perhaps you would like to explain "rewriting the Constitution"? Such as with Constitutional Amendments? I believe the body of the Constitution has remained unchanged for quite awhile, though I have lived outside the country for almost a decade now, and maybe I have missed something??


Rewriting is a term used to describe the process of a "living document". With the case of our Constitution this means that progressives view that that the "Constitution has a dynamic meaning or that it has the properties of an animate being in the sense that it changes. The idea is associated with views that contemporaneous society should be taken into account when interpreting key constitutional phrases."

What this means is an evolving interpretation is necessary instead of using the amendment process. Judges are then used to interpret the original meaning or intent when it becomes unacceptable as a policy matter. The big issue with this is if we allowed judges to determine an ever-changing meaning of the constitution that would make the whole amendment process moot and basically allow whom ever is in the White House to "rewrite" it at will, using judges to interpret as they feel it should be and not as to what the original framers intended.



Perhaps it is where you consider the 'rewrite' takes place, as well the example in my own inquiry about ignoring the inconvenient parts.


Can you give me an example of "ignoring the inconvenient parts"... If you referring to the Patriots Act, I agree it is dangerous to our Constitution and I bet every other conservative on ATS would say the same, but it seems that both parties wanted it to come about. The Patriots Act is a dream come true for the progressive since it opens the door for their way of thinking....It sure seems Obama likes it....

The bottom line is the progressive wants the intent of the constitution to be dynamic, and I 100% disagree with that view and see it as a very dangerous road to travel. If your view is that since we already ignored parts of it then we might as well let it be dynamic too is also a dangerous road to travel that undermines democracy.


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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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That methodology completely conflicts with the word Supreme. You have been robbed.

Read Article 6 and pull out your Webster's.

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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I wouldn't mind the reduction in military spending if I didn't see them screwing everything else up. You can't go challenging Russia and China while inciting the entire middle east and other nations scattered worldwide while cutting your military budget. We don't even have enough money for our own borders and even if we did we still let anyone through. That's just insanity.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Sunwolf
Still does not detract from the fact that Obama is a foreign policy disaster walking.


I'm sorry. I'll type when I stop laughing so hard.

Saying something is so does not make it so.

Is the World Really Losing Faith in Obama?


For more than a decade, the Pew Research Center has been asking people around the world about their opinion of the United States. The upshot: In every region of the globe except the Middle East (where the United States was wildly unpopular under George W. Bush and remains so), America’s favorability is way up since Obama took office. In Spain, approval of the United States is 29 percentage points higher than when Bush left office. In Italy, it’s up 23 points. In Germany and France, it’s 22. With the exception of China, where the numbers have remained flat, the trend is the same in Asia. The U.S. is 19 points more popular in Japan, 24 points more popular in Indonesia, and 28 points more popular in Malaysia. Likewise among the biggest powers in Latin America and Africa: Approval of the United States has risen 19 points in Argentina and 12 points in South Africa. (For some reason, there’s no Bush-era data on this question for Brazil or Nigeria).


This is pure BS Cheney neo-conian propaganda.

Fact is, the economy is recovering, things in the Middle East are churning, and they see a way to make more money, so they're spewing again.
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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
Rewriting is a term used to describe the process of a "living document". With the case of our Constitution this means that progressives view that that the "Constitution has a dynamic meaning...."

That is hardly a literal interpretation of 'rewriting,' but I guess if Michelle Bachmann characterizes it as such then it is gospel. The Ambiguo-Absolutist might characterize all good and ills in our politico/societal structure with such convenient denominators as 'conservatives' and 'progressives' views and ideals as it suits them, whereas I can hardly categorize it all in such simplistic terms. Any hope for productive discussion should then be relegated to the likes of nailing down a valid definition of 'God' without lapsing into a superfluous 'everything' kind of description. Good luck with ever accomplishing anything productive for society short of entirely obliterating every one of them danged 'pergressivs' from the face of the Earth, at least until all the remaining fall in lockstep behind those who know what is good and fair and Right.


Can you give me an example of "ignoring the inconvenient parts"... If you referring to the Patriots Act, I agree it is dangerous to our Constitution....

That was a good example you provided. Michelle also was quite emphatic stating, "The Constitution says no man is above the law, including the president of the United States." So another example I might offer would be Ollie North and Fawn Hall during the Iran/Contra Hearings speaking of the necessity of going "above the law" when needed.


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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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I'm not a big fan of Mr. Obama except sporadically ... because at the end of the day he's a corporatist of the first water. Like Bush II, and Clinton, and Bush I etc. etc. We pick our political poison in this country though, and that's a given.

However, above in this discussion, someone pointed out the usual vectors (Fox News, wingnut radio, blogs, etc.) for the rampant lies and falsehoods that so many have swallowed hook-line-and-sinker ... which all boil down to the "known truth" that Mr. Obama is the worst President, or even one of the worst ... but interestingly, are never borne out by those pesky little items called facts.

While I remain well aware that the right-wingers "Amen Corner" here continually endlessly repeats and posts new threads that peter out when anyone asks for factual backup or points out logical inconsistencies, it is still "common knowledge" among many that Mr. Obama is "weak, ineffectual and incompetent" while (did I mention the inherent paradoxes of modern right-wingism?) he is also SIMULTANEOUSLY a merciless tyrant who has trampled the Constitution, will throw the continually victimized, er, rather, right-wingers and Christians, into FEMA camps, send grandmas to death camps, etc. etc.

So, buy more guns and contribute to your local Tea Party candidate everyone! Stop the Tyrant! Don't Tread on MEEE!

/sigh

Perhaps it takes a certain kind of mental functioning/dysfunctioning to hold such contradictory positions ... I just don't get it.

Mr. Obama, not the best, but certainly not the worst. There's plenty of truthful factual criticisms, but, interestingly enough, there's quite a number of easily discoverable positive and productive things this Administration has accomplished.

What? No way!

Yes way.

For documented facts: 250 Obama Accomplishments With CItations

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posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 02:32 PM
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Did they ever pinpoint what those "cuts" were affecting ?

Did Cruz pinpoint what those cuts were affecting when he was pushing for the sequestration?



Obama is the failure 100% because he as well as Democrats refuse to compromise and negotiate in good faith.

How do you compromise and negotiate with a party that can only say no? He has made many attempts to negotiate but the GOP wants no of it like spoiled children they just want their way.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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You know, I am gonna just step back from ATS altogether for a while! You have missed the point of my OP...

1. I did link the article if you missed it that is on you....If i did not do it in a timely enough matter, then someone needs to get over themselves (wink)(wink)

The Military budget has been cut by Obama and I pointed out if he knew how to do a damn a thing he would not blow our money on senseless things such a billion dollar bail outs, Solyndra, ring a bell for anyone? A forced failed health care plan with a broken website that had as many security breaches as your everyday porn site! Millions of people flooding in from the border with NO border enforcement at all!! Wasted money on carbon BS and Global warming BS the list goes on and on!

Ever wonder why our freedom has not been threatened since WWII as a poster pointed out.....Because the world knows we have the strongest Military on the planet and they would be fools to try and come after us!! THIS IS HOW WE AVOID ATTACKS!! Obama does not believe in our Military or our country he makes deliberate decisions to make our Military look weak....Appearances matter people!! That makes us vulnerable for attacks!! The ability to fight 2 wars at the same time was not referring to provoking a war...it was talking about being able to adequately defend our selves from other aggressors.....We are despised in the world because Obama sold, and set us up to look like goons and self righteous zealots pleading our apologies for all the wrongs in the world....durring his first few months in office! Obama the ASSHAT outed the station chief of the CIA putting me lives in danger!!

You may think America is all about killing and loving war...but the honest truth is Most of us have NO IDEA what it takes to protect our country on any given day!! Ask any former Special Forces troop!! Preferably someone you know and trust!! How many of you here have seen combat and can honestly say Obama has been a fine Commander and Chief?

Every single meticulous move Obama has made, has been done in hopes of America failing! If you think this man gives one damn about this country, look at the facts of his actions while in office!

Why are we talking about BUSH!! if it is for comparison reasons most of the country prefers BUSH to the Bozo who pretends to be in charge now! so Bush has no bearing on this issue whatsoever.....

Everything is NOT meant to harm you! I believe the Military is there to protect you. Unfortunately many have been a pawn in the game of World Politics! And so many have paid the ultimate price for that!

Pax



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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How do you compromise and negotiate with a party that can only say no? He has made many attempts to negotiate but the GOP wants no of it like spoiled children they just want their way.


You sound like Obama himself! when the president was asked repeatedly what are you going to do to balance the budget he responded with " How can you come to agreement when the Republicans refuse to offer anything and negotiate" Then he said this I am not going to negotiate with someone who wont give me a reasonable option"

I don't know Mr. President I am not the leader here!! That is the job you were elected for! perhaps you could tax that pea brain of yours and dig real deep for some common sense and solve this one one yourself! After all aren't you the great one who can dazzle them with Bullsh**!!

Stop making excuses for his failure at even attempting to solve a problem!!

pax



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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Seems more they are acknowledging an accomplishment
rather than making it a finding.



posted on Aug, 2 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: Erongaricuaro
Good luck with ever accomplishing anything productive for society short of entirely obliterating every one of them danged 'pergressivs' from the face of the Earth, at least until all the remaining fall in lockstep behind those who know what is good and fair and Right.


You seem to thing I hate progressives and that is not true. I want balance and either direction of a small group or one group deciding how things should be is bad for all, it just stands that right now the progressives are winning their edge and so will unbalance everything in their direction.



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