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originally posted by: Mr Mask
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
originally posted by: Mr Mask
originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Mr Mask
Should the funding stop for Palestine?
If you want to stop one you have stop all.
Palestine receives "aid" from the US not military funding. If Hamas was receiving military aid from the US, then yes it would need to stop.
But "aid" that Palestine receives from the seven groups (including the US) is intended to promote and maintain peace.
Funding war, weapons, military action and murder...must stop.
On any and all sides.
MM
So the Palestinian elected government, Hamas, gets none of that money? None of the 400 + million every year? They don't get any Brotherhood money? None of the brotherhood money the US supplied when they had control in Egypt?
Some if I recall 3 billion dollars?
Like most people screaming about Hamas and the criminal behavior of them (make no mistake, I do not support their criminal actions), you seem quick to change the subject on Israel's murder spree.
Reread your post, murder spree wasn't mentioned, your post was about money.
I did not say Hamas was in the right. But I AM loudly saying that they are not murdering as many people as Israel.
So what murder rate is acceptable to you?
If every time someone points out a criminal action, you are going to try and shift that observation away from said crimes by bringing up another guilty party, we are going to have a hard time speaking about any atrocities on this planet.
Again your post was about money not atrocities
Israel is clearly killing thousands of civilians and have done so for a long time. Does this make Hamas innocent? No.
This we can agree, I have never taken sides. But I felt compelled to say something because of the overwhelming amount of lies and propaganda being posted. My point has always been tactically Israel is better trained, equipped, and funded. Palestine will never get any land back. So what is the point of shooting rockets into Israel other than propaganda and inciting violence? This to has been going on for sometime as well.
Do i think Hamas is scraping from the "non-military aid" Palestine is receiving? Most likely.
Does that erase or change the fact that thousands of civilians are living a life of pure hell under the iron fist and occupation of Israel? No sir.
In fact, the entire world is now waking up to the fact of just how criminal Israel is. And all the slight of hand in the world will not hide that fact.
It does appear Hamas is winning the media battle through pure propaganda. Just the amount of utter falsehoods written on ATS should prove that. Do I think Israel is capable of the same? Of course I do every government does it US being the worst, I just can't quite figure why the media has decided to side with Hamas. Plus the amount of vitriol during debate is incredible.
Hamas has its crimes. Hamas are a bunch of animals. True.
But Israel is just as bad if not worse...and if we are going to count murders and crimes...then surely FAR worse.
Finally this much is debatable, and I ask myself was Israel attacking, shelling, mortar firing, bombing, etc. etc. before 1000's of rockets were shot at their country? No. So it never occurred to me since I am not a citizen of either country I would be so arrogant as to proclaim how one should react about the other after being attacked. There isn't much I can know in detail sitting behind a computer in the US. But I can separate out the BS with just a bit of common sense.
MM
originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Hellas
Look at how far gone are leaders are today. They passed money for another countries defense while cutting off unemployment compensation for 5 million people.
Let them eat cake does not even come close anymore. People across the country are losing everything they could care less. It is surreal.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: buster2010
You should do some checking before making ignorant remarks. Many of us has called for cutting off all foreign aid. If you want to support Israel fine just don't make America go further into debt to do it pay for it out of your own pocket.
Wait... Isn't the Senate democratically controlled, don't we have a Democrat President? How can this happen? You guys voted them into office, so I guess that is what you all wanted, right?
originally posted by: live2beknown
a reply to: ParasuvO
LOL! Arab had no chance? dude..Israel had nothing back than, go read history..Israel hardly beat them.
Why don't you go to Libya, or Iraq Or Syria and join your friend and kill each other lol.
originally posted by: buster2010
Another person that has no clue when it comes to American politics. The government hasn't listened to the people for decades. They only listen to the people who buy them during election time and the majority of Americans can't afford to pump millions into elections.
Psh. Its sick to help a country defend themselves from attacks? What? You would rather Israel just bend over and take it? What kind of a person are you?
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: voyger2
Where are your Arab brothers?
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
The venom in your voice and the hate in your heart reduces your ability to find an equitable solution to peace.
originally posted by: voyger2
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: voyger2
Where are your Arab brothers?
Indeed you're full of words. I was born and raised in Portugal. I'm proudly Portuguese son of discoverers of the new world. We are conquerers not terrorists as your israeli nation .
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
The venom in your voice and the hate in your heart reduces your ability to find an equitable solution to peace.
You don't poison me with your hate and venom. Words indeed are a little nerve you got there..
here rejoice with the hatred chantings of your brothers:
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
You are one of the people here who spew untruths, and fabrications about the facts. I am interested in truth.
Yosef said: "Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel." "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat."