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originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: Zaphod58
I am more than aware of technological adances thanks to military breakthroughs. I am not bad mouthing here but doesn't it seem like the whole thing is just getting stale now? I mean, with sooooooo much poverty and so many obviously more necessary sectors of society to be helped...I don't know, I understand and truly love the whole idea of innovation, however, and this is something that we know right? Nothing that is known that is useful is filtered down until it is no longer useful.
originally posted by: bjarneorn
a reply to: boomer135
This is a smokescreen, basically done by rhe ilitary to get more funding.
A stealth plane is,easy to see on radar, because it isnt true stealth but built on a glitch inherent on every radar built by western companies. If anyone builds there own radar,theyll see your little,bird alomg with a lot of real birds.
originally posted by: boomer135
originally posted by: grey580
Great we spent billions on a turkey in the F-35 that's not stealthy anymore.
Maybe some cooler tech will float out of a hanger now.
Oh its still stealthy...just a couple of countries "might" be able to develop radars that can see it.
And hey let's be honest here. I know we're pivoting to the pacific or whatever, but seriously what are the odds that we go to war with Russia or China? Prob slim to none and if we do I'm pretty sure nuclear weapons will be involved anyway so screw it. There's still a couple hundred countries out there that the f-35 will excel in wars with.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: boomer135
I am of the opinion that once stealth became known and rolled out in large numbers that was actually a mistake, some F117's over flew britain and according to the story the US thought we did not know anything about it, apparantly the coversation went something like this "Oh we sent some prototype air craft over on a mission to ? last night and the RAF officer replied, "Yes we tracked them at ?hours from ? to ?" at which the USAF guy was a little shaken and asked how we had tracked them, our system is different to the one the US and Russians use and it had no problem identifying and tracking them along with other systems we have.
Even recessed the early 117's still have a thermal trail and computer systems with high update high resolution radar also track them well enough by speed even though there return signature is reduced as it is still present and a bird does not fly that fast, all depend's how much data you process as most radar ignores or filters out smaller signature's to screen out bird's and is dependant on a human operator but a computer can keep track of and analyse far more data so does not need that screening.
I know that story from a former Top RAF engineer and instructor who also told he how the RAF brass eventually allowed the Harrier pilot's to fly there way during a friendly combat excercise with american fighter pilot's flying the then main american fighter (F18's or F16's I can't recall the conversation), up to that point having to fly the harrier as any other fighter the americans where winning hand's down in all simulated engagement's but when there commanding officer gave them the green light to fly in there own way the harriers suckered the US pilots into overshooting them then came up behind them and turned the tables with there superior manouverability, it was after that the American's bought the Harrier which in my opinion is still the finest multi role fighter bomber in the world and I don't think it is outdated at all, now it is American only as our idiot of a prime minister retired our harrier squadrons while putin rubbed his hand's together and gave himself a hearty slap on the back.
originally posted by: framedragged
Not because of the destructive power that they will unleash. But because anyone in a position of power who sees such a toy will sit down, knowing that they have already lost to something that they can't understand, let alone counter.
Or perhaps I should say I find it comforting to hold that belief heh.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: boomer135
This biggest thing here is the ability to guide interceptors into the area, that might then be able to find them.
originally posted by: mbkennel
That's assuming full rationality.