Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

a reply to: adnanmuf

And why is that? They are protein chains.

originally posted by: netwarrior
a reply to: adnanmuf

And why is that? They are protein chains.

it is supposed all immunoglobulins pass unharmed from mother to baby, it s the whole idea,
so all milk have antibodies that is supposed to pass unchanged to the baby through hisher digestive system
her also I provided some PubMED links about the subject for our navd he will be delighted to read

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I found this on pdf on internet:


In the latest study, published in the U.S. journal of Science, in its issue dated August 2005 found that the Camelites and especially Camel is distinct from the rest of the mammals in that they have in their blood and tissues antibodies that are much smaller.

Composed of short chains of amino acids in the form of letter V and scientists called it complements or antibodies

so they are called Nano Antibodies short antiobodies Immunoglobulin IgG and they are v shaped.

There is no such antibodies but in camel. other antibodies of human and other mammals
are bigger and Y-shaped,

And the size of the Camel antibodies is a tenth the size of regular human antibiotics and more agile so that they are able to lock onto its targets of germs and cancer antigens and destroy them. the same ability of regular antibodies, and pass easily through cell membranes and reach all the body's cells. And features of the Camel nano-antibodies (nanobodies) are stable in the room temperature and resistant to change, and they maintains effectiveness while passing from intestines to blood stream, unlike other animals antibodies that incur damage because of thermal changes and because of digestive enzymes.
Thus enhancing the prospects for the emergence of drug vials containing these Camel antibodies to treat inflammatory bowel disease, Colon Cancer and Rheumatoid Arthritis and possibly Alzheimer's patients as well."""

I believe aquired immunity (antibodies) are better than vaccines and much more powerful without the sideeffects of vaccines (allergy , they used to have something called allergy disease after introduction of the vaccines in the thirties, it is not related to allergy. it is a specific disease happens to vaccinated people. it is thought that all autoimmune diseases are caused by vaccines (autoimmune is allergy where the immune system attacks its own body).
for example Diabetes type 1 that hits babies is caused by immune reaction to molds in basements (old houses) brought by central A/C upstairs!.
the immune system thinks parts of the panceas similar to those mold fragments, and attack the panceas hence diabetes.

The untold story of vaccines called adjuvant agents) that are added to the vaccine to incease its power 50 times. Now what is the adjuvant added to the dead virus?
it s a piece of eshrechia coli.
Now the immune system knows the e coli, it is found in stools, so when they find it suddenly in the blood they get a shock and get activated 50 times making antibodies for the virus of the vaccine on their way.
but the immune system never trust itself again, so it keeps attacking parts of the body especially the fragile dna segment and hence we get Fragile Chromosome X with all its metabolic diseases varieties congenital, plus all kinds of wrong responses to innocent parts of the body like the thyroids for example.
hence humans become ailed and always worry about themselves walking in the streets in crowds but nobody look or care for other.
this is called Zombies.

originally posted by: violet

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: 00nunya00

Cocaine is the top medicine for depression. weed too good for Bolimia Nervosa among a thousand things

What's that stuff or depression got to do with ebola?

no i was responding to somebody about weed, not related to the thread just passing



but i will make a new thread for that topic, that only alcohol should be banned because its not nature made.

a reply to: adnanmuf

Can you remove the text you added to my quote about alcohol please. I didn't say that and edited my post now

a reply to: adnanmuf

Add your source link, please.

2nd.

originally posted by: DirtyD

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: 00nunya00

You know these stories of miraculous cures are being plastered all over West African MSM...it's got to make them want to come to America in the worst way possible, seeking their secret serum and cure, if they think they've been exposed in any way.

Runs on the airports, or our Southern border by desperate people. That's what this is leading to. I don't blame them wanting to live and looking at maybe their own airports getting closed to air travel.

But it's not a magic unlimited supply of secret cure for ebola. It's a bunch of hype, and if anyone is going to be given very limited supplies of secret serum...it's gonna be very rich, well connected people.

Des

Fudgesicles, that's a frightening thought. The lure of some magical cure could very well bring untold numbers of infected to our shores.

I've been hearing stories that people from all over the world are pouring in through the Southern Border, not just from Central America.

Unfortunately, you heard right about our borders. About 3 weeks ago I posted on one of the umpteen border threads, how in one week alone, there were over 90 people from Africa in the category of *other than Mexican* that were picked up on our border. I also posted the article that stated the prices the various *other than Mexicans* were paying to the cartels/coyotes to bring them to our borders. The Africans were quoted as paying approx $25,000 per person for passage through Mexico to the land of everything free, and now, thanks to misreporting by the MSM, the magic secret serum ebola cure.

With this ebola crisis...and it is a crisis in West Africa. I can guarantee you extreme fear in Africa will drive those number up. If you remember. Our President and the CDC delegated a few days ago, the locations of 20 detention/quarantine facilities for holding people with respiratory diseases. 3 of those centers are on the border.

Obama executive order allows detention of Americans with respiratory diseases www.examiner.com...

For the ones that are caught crossing the border...imagine how many are not even seen. That is very scary to me.

America is leaking like a sieve...and nobody cares that ebola could be walking over unguarded borders. You couldn't pay me to live in a border town right now.

Des

originally posted by: kosmicjack
With regard to the second patient, Writebol...is she coming tomorrow? Or any other weekday this week?

Because it's one thing to transport a patient through ATL on a Saturday morning. It's a helluva whole other thing to do so on a weekday, especially during the first week of school, in the metro area - total gridlock. Even on an average day .

Brantly's ambulance barely had an escort and was stopping at redlights.

By all means, let's add school busses to the mix.

Unless the school buses stop, the kids get out and go in the ambulance then roll in her fluids i dont see the issue?

a reply to: Destinyone
Bingo. Being honest or even knowing.

These are exactly the issues we had with HIV.
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Second Ebola patient leaves Liberia on flight to Atlanta

Updated: 4:04 a.m. Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2014 | Posted: 12:03 p.m. Monday, Aug. 4, 2014014. ! Google says 8 hours ago, which would make it 10:00pm (thereabouts). What? This stuff doesn't jive. I guess they're updating a page. I hate that we can't get accurate timestamps on stories. But anyway, they say:

Nancy Writebol's plane left around 9:30 p.m. EDT. She is expected to land in Atlanta Tuesday.

So 9 hour to Bangor, with a customs stop in Bangor for an hour (as for the other plane), then about 3 hours to Dobbins, if they follow the same route, she may get here around 10:30am or so. So around noon-ish given some variables.

Wonder what will be different...FBI...if she will walk in.

flighttime-calculator.com...

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a reply to: Zebra501
Ya gotta watch the planes!

Guess they decontamiated the plane at Cartersville over the weekend.

They duct taped the seal but one suit at least when they brought him in had an air scrubber on it.

Well, off to work. If they caught a good tailwind from Bangor maybe I'll get to see this one land.
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

Link to ~Lucidity's posted ZMapp Info Sheet

Not trying to be a pain in the rump, Lucidity, but even with my glasses on that pic was hard to read. Just trying to help out a little.

originally posted by: MyMindIsMyOwn
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Link to ~Lucidity's posted ZMapp Info Sheet

Not trying to be a pain in the rump, Lucidity, but even with my glasses on that pic was hard to read. Just trying to help out a little.

Thank you. I'm not sure why this turned out so small.

originally posted by: 00nunya00
I thank you for the new info; now if we could only find anything related to the claims that ebola is hosted in plants and dirt (which is the claim that's most relevant to this thread).

The poster obviously does not have English as a first language. Could it be that when he refers to 'flora', he is referring to that which resides within the gut? Then his statement makes sense, though some specificity could help.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
No, the poster knows the difference, as seen in the collection of their posts on the subject.

Plane is in Maine.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Well if he is Maine that's good news considering the American reston can't live in animal and plant Flora because it's cold. Remember Ebola is Tropical!! In origin.
Mind you all germwarfare agents are Tropical diseases agent. They shouldn't call it biowarfare they should call it tropical disease. Easier to phathom.

Ebola doesn't live in plants at all, and last I looked, mammals are warm-blooded, even in the winter time. And there's no reason to think they would have kept him in Maine. That was the shell-game switch place, not the final destination.

This. Whereas the animal reservoirs are tropical and it leads to doubt whether Ebola could come endemic in the US, it certainly can be transmitted in a cold climate.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: 00nunya00

Someone else at least thought of this and looked into it: Are Plants Ebola's Natural Reservoir?

A couple of easy answers to their questions:
1) Flowering cycles feed both insects and fruit bats, as well as non-fruit-bats. Bats are known reservoirs of Marburg, which is very similar to ebola. Bats are kept as pets in Africa and also eaten. The more there are, the likelier it is to eat an infected one.

2) Bats bite. They bite humans and animals, usually by mistake. The bite transmits the virus easily.

3)Insects that bite multiple hosts is a much more likely method of transfer, because they actually suck the blood of their hosts and sometimes regurgitate it into another host.

That page is just an undergrad report project. Nothing more. And just because the question was asked, it's obvious from the page the answer has never been "yes" or even "probably".

ETA: in the second link, concerning the plants:

Thirteen plants either wilted or developed lesions on the leaves ascribed to mechanical injury during the inoculation process, but no infectivity could be recovered from the tissues, and no evidence of virus infection was observed by electron microscopy.

You are correct and, if you think critically, you understand why. Ebola specifically attacks lymphocytes and hepatocytes. There are no such analogous cells in the plant world so where is the virus going to replicate?

originally posted by: adnanmuf
For every pathogen it have a specific reservoir a specific host and the occasional randevo. They only visit humans but they their own homes year round.

Yes, and we know what those reservoirs are with Ebola and they ain't your aunt Tilly's rosebushes.

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: adnanmuf
If you look in the dirt you find 1000 different types of viruses. Viruses can live dormant. Especially the tropical kind.

Please cite your source that allows you to say "I KNOW it's in plants and dirt." If you know it, you must have a body of research you're drawing from. You can even take a pic of the page of the book you're getting it from, if you have one. Just something other than your word.

I know it because I read it!
the reston virus .
I cant remember where i read it.you google.
youd better not bother me again,
and stop talking abouit grady and bull Cd4 and crap.
nothing can stop the Flue.
The ebola is much infectious than the flue by a hundred times.
so please end the spell of grady on this thread.

No it isn't. Unlike the flu, Ebola is not airborne.

originally posted by: adnanmuf
a reply to: 00nunya00

its no brainer you can not prevent the Flue from spreading.
as for HIV you need a group of 50000 viruses together in one pin head to be able to infect a new person.
the ebola is said just 10 viruses or just one, so that gives you prespectus on the infectiousity of things.
it is all here in the thread mentioned earlier by the virologist who did the research.

" infectiousity " is not a word. I think the word you are looking for is "virulence." And to anyone who brings up a language barrier, that is also a medical term that is used across languages.