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Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 07:55 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Atlanta is not alone. As was discussed - Spain has now flown one of it's own back to Madrid for 'treatment'. I guess 'treatment' means comfort care because there is no real treatment for this. This is the first case of Ebola in Spain. None of the hospitals there have ever seen it or 'treated' it before now.

As mentioned on previous page - more info -

AP - Priest With Ebola Flown To Madrid Spain


MADRID (AP) -- A Spanish missionary priest who tested positive for the Ebola virus was in stable condition at a Madrid hospital on Thursday after being evacuated from Liberia, health officials said.

The priest, Miguel Pajares, 75, was helping to treat people infected with Ebola and was one of three who tested positive at the San Jose de Monrovia Hospital in Liberia earlier this week. He was flown to Spain on Thursday.

Juliana Bohi, an Equatorial Guinean nun with Spanish nationality who worked with him in Liberia, was also brought back but she is not infected. Both worked for the San Juan de Dios hospital order, a Catholic humanitarian group that runs hospitals around the world.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 08:00 AM
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See, that is a great idea. I'd also like to point out that some people who were trying to pass off "facts" in this thread labeled them otherwise in yours. While you may think I've not contributed to this thread, I've done my best to not let baseless speculation be accepted as fact, and always backed it up with sources. That other thread is where those individuals need to end up. This thread should have only been about news involving this patient and monitoring the situation. It wasn't until some of des' "valuable contributers" started saying someone in a photo 15 feet away had been exposed to Ebola and everyone started saying Ebola could be airborne that I got involved. NavyDoc also got involved because another poster was passing himself off as a doctor but posting erroneous information.

a reply to: Druid42


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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: NavyDoc

Yeah its how containment and transports was taught to me too in clinical microbiology. Seeing as the CDC practically wrote the book on handling Cat 4s I have no idea why they broke with procedure on the USA case especially with using the transport pods its the one I expected them to use above all else.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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Nigeria Declares State Of Emergency: "Everyone In The World Is At Risk" From Ebola, CDC Issues Level 1 "All-Hands Call"

www.zerohedge.com...
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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Hellas
The first Ebola patient arriving in Spain

That's how Europe handles this



Source (German)






WTF.... Makes the US look like amateurs. Thats scary.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Seek_Truth

I know and the crazy part is the USA wrote the book on that sort of transfer so its odd they never followed there own procedures.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: switchqm8
Nigeria Declares State Of Emergency: "Everyone In The World Is At Risk" From Ebola, CDC Issues Level 1 "All-Hands Call"

www.zerohedge.com...


Did you notice that the majority of that story is quoted from a post on Godlikeproductions.com?

ZH is generally a good source, but really?



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Hellas

Good find Hellas!!!!

Big difference in how Europe transports an infected person compared to the US. It's like night and day.

Found a couple more to add.








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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: NavyDoc

Yeah its how containment and transports was taught to me too in clinical microbiology. Seeing as the CDC practically wrote the book on handling Cat 4s I have no idea why they broke with procedure on the USA case especially with using the transport pods its the one I expected them to use above all else.


Personally, I never believed that was the actual doctor stepping out of the ambulance.

It has been done so many times before... The US media behaves like children going after a ice-cream truck, it's quite pathetic the lengths of effort some news networks will go into just to have a reporter standing right there.

It's very easy to wave them into one direction and do things in peace in a completely isolated area.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: Seek_Truth

Now THAT is a proper transport. Pod and all. I'm more and more convinced what we saw was a red herring. They're at USAMRIID.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: Seek_Truth

Now THAT is a proper transport. Pod and all. I'm more and more convinced what we saw was a red herring. They're at USAMRIID.


I completely agree with you. But still a dramatic difference from what we, in the US, saw.

I really hope its a case of terrible acting rather than incompetence.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: Seek_Truth

Now THAT is a proper transport. Pod and all. I'm more and more convinced what we saw was a red herring. They're at USAMRIID.


Im thinking that too.

They may have put a show on to keep the reporters happy and taken them there as that's certainly were I would have taken them as the the hospital there is probably the best facility for cat 4 tropical diseases in the world. I would not want to be treated anywhere else in the world if I had Ebola.
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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Seek_Truth
sorry no i did not notice that. good catch



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: switchqm8
a reply to: Seek_Truth
sorry no i did not notice that. good catch



I'm not saying that the info is inaccurate in the post, just surprised that ZH used it.

ETA: IMHO it serves as proof that our threads and posts are being noticed and now quoted by some Media outlets.
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posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Seek_Truth

News shows and their script readers are corporations, nothing more.

They're grasping at straws now trying to get some semblance of understanding of what they're talking about and searching for sound bites and anything to fill airtime, but mostly as with all important topics, we're fed some mixture of spin and outright lies. The usual excuse for this is 'quelling panic' but you can bet that every hour there are hundreds of documents being produced all stamped with bright red 'TOP SECRET' on them that will never, ever, see the light of day.

You don't think George Stephanopolous or Wolf Blitzer has any clue about anything, anymore, do you? They literally spend more time every day getting their hair done then they do researching.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: switchqm8

Was anyone ever able to find out what "Level 1" is? I know it is the highest response for their operations center, but that only applies to their center in Atlanta correct?

Does that really mean a whole lot? I would think they need to upgrade their containment levels that go from 1 being the lowest to 3 being the highest. 3 would cause travel restrictions to all area's who have shown an outbreak.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: raymundoko

I wont admit to being a expect for CDC warning levels though I probably should know *embarrassed*

But I think I did read it mean resources are shuffled around so more staff are allocated from other areas onto the Ebola, plus access to more funding to hire experts and medical staff ect



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: Hellas

Hellas, I couldn't contain myself after seeing your post.

Excellent job!

What an embarrassment for us. Like I said, we are either a bunch of yahoos for treating this transport in the manner we did...or it was all theater.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: NavyDoc

Do you believe then, in your experience, that either the US transport was totally flubbed out of incompetence, or that the publicized transport of Brantley was a diversion from the actual transport? I'd be curious to understand from those who have training in this area. If the transport of Brantley we all saw was crap, how could we go about looking into the ACTUAL transport? Is it too late to find that information from someone who may have seen the real deal somewhere?



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: NEB0168
a reply to: NavyDoc

Do you believe then, in your experience, that either the US transport was totally flubbed out of incompetence, or that the publicized transport of Brantley was a diversion from the actual transport? I'd be curious to understand from those who have training in this area. If the transport of Brantley we all saw was crap, how could we go about looking into the ACTUAL transport? Is it too late to find that information from someone who may have seen the real deal somewhere?




I don't want to answer for Navy Doc but from what I know of Britain's similar Porton Down if they don't want you too know you wont find out until there ready to tell


Disclaimer
Thats not say anything sinister is going on, there are egitimate reason why a decoy and discretion may be a good idea.
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