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666 Revealed // The Antichrist is Caliph Ibrahim

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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Is it 666 or is it 616? Bible scholars are at odds over that. Many scholars also state that the 666 or 616 was referring to a person who was alive in St. Johns time and that John was writing in allegory. Some say it refers to NERO. If there ever is an anti-christ on Earth, people won't have to be guessing as to if he is the one or not. It will be very clear .. deadly clear .. that he is.

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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

I disagree. Even the bible says that people will not recognize him for such.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:04 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

The bible infers that people in general won't recognize him but those paying attention should be able to. Granted, that will be a small portion of the population who will, but for those looking at the signs and the situation, they should be able to recognize him. You are welcome to disagree with that interpretation if you wish.

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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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It speaks of all the world wondering after the beast and worshipping him and him deceiving them with fire coming down out of the sky.

It seems that many will be fooled.

Just because he will be marked for recognition by some doesn't mean that it will "clear as bell." That makes the assumption that you or I or anyone here will be in the group that easily will read these signs. That's an easy assumption to make and one we all desperately want to make because the alternative is unthinkable for any person of faith.
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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

The bible says "even the elect, if that were possible"

Now... who the elect is, is anyone's guess. My thinking is they will be scattered individuals and no single group (ie: it wont be shia, or christian or mormon etc) but it might be one of each or something... individual people who are on the right path, and right with God, regardless of where they are...

You know.... I cannot say I am "one of the elect" and to be honest, if someone did say this to me, I would probably laugh... we all do our best, according to our best ability, but who can claim to be in absolute truth, in all honesty?

Who will claim to be the elect of God? In all seriousness?
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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



originally posted by: ketsuko
It speaks of all the world wondering after the beast and worshipping him and him deceiving them with fire coming down out of the sky.

Yep. Which leaves Caliph Ibrahim, the topic of this thread, out.

It seems that many will be fooled.

Most everyone will be. But again if you read the signs, and the signs aren't there for someone, then that person most likely isn't the anti-christ. That's why I think it's pretty clear we can write this fella off as not being the anti-christ. He's not world wide adored and worshipped.

Again ... that's one interpretation of many.
You are free to agree with it or not. No problem.

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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

I agree with you to a point FF, where I diverge from you, on the topic of al-baghdadi, is that it is possible he is the one who makes all wonder after the beast....and bow down to it.

What is the result of al-baghdadi's actions, and you will get the gist of what I am trying to say. The false prophet, just might not have the appearance of being a false prophet at all... but the appearance of an enemy, which causes all, free and slave, to bow down to the beast.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: ApokalypsisRising

666 is Nero, Caesar.

Do you even history, bro?



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

I'm not sure who this guy is. I haven't seen enough of him to get a sense of him.

He may be a horseman. He may be the head of the Black Army preparing the way for the Mahdi. Those two may be one and the same.

But you can't say for certain that he isn't the beast just because not all the world has fallen down before him yet. We've seen ... two pictures and a brief video of him?

I do find it disturbing that we apparently have someone who can put Sunni, Shia, Christian, and any other religious group in the area to the sword quite openly and detonate important mosques and churches of all groups and detonate shrines and threaten the Ka-aba and still have someone who pulls in recruits.

Doesn't that strike you as interesting?



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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Sultan Abdul Hamid II, the 99th caliph and the last sultan to exert effective control over the Ottoman Empire

www.majalla.com...

The picture of this Sultan the 99th caliph have a resemblance to the guy we are talking about here. Look at the noses on both.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Equally as interesting, if he keeps growing in power, he is one that would make ALL of us (Sunni, Shia, Christian, Jew and Atheist) rally behind the one who would fight him....

even the elect, if that were possible.

Don't worry I'm not saying I'm right... It's just a weird feeling I've had that I cannot shake, so I decided to let it have voice.
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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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The first beast of revelation is the beast With 7 heads, ten horns, and ten Crowns. This beast will recive a Deadly wond.

Read revelation 13, verse 12.



11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.


So the Papal See (the Pope) is not the one who recieves the Deadly wond. It is the whole beast described in revelation 13,1.

This is the beast With the human number 666:

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


This beast is the same beast as described in revelation 13 verse 11 to 18.



11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



The second beast is not Obama. The New beast is the eighth and is of the seven heads of the first beast.


11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.


Verse 13.

These ten kings shall receive Power as kings for one hour With the beast (the beast is us, the People). These ten kings have one mind. We will all have the same mind as these ten kings. We are the once wo will cause all this evil described in revelation.

The once who dont have the same mind as the beast will all die.






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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: ChaosComplex

originally posted by: Bilk22
Pics are not of the same guy - not even ten years apart.

Any reasons or more information besides 'Nope. Not him.'

I thought this at first, but the only drastic difference I can see (that couldn't be attributed to 10 years of aging) is the difference in his beard, specifically directly between his lower lip and chin. The younger picture the hair there is sparse, in the '10 years later' pic the hair is very full and thick. Also the older picture the eyebrows seem fuller and longer, but that could be from aging, or simply because of perspective/resolution of the photos.

My beard has grown patchy my whole life, and the patchiness hasn't really gone away lol...I guess that's what I'm basing my assumption on.

Also, as many pther posters have mentioned...hasn't the world been about to end for some reason or another for decades?
Eyebrows are totally different. Now I guess that could be by design, but I really don't see the resemblance.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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Perhaps we should remember that a) no two individuals can even agree on who/what/when/where regarding "the Antichrist" ... and that b) for over half the world's population, the various Judeo-Christian-Islamist mythologies have no meaning nor validity whatsoever.

Fear the real people in this world that want to enslave your minds not the equivalent of the Tooth Fairy on Fear-porn Steroids that is "the Antichrist."



posted on Sep, 9 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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I stand by this. It's too much of a coincidence. Maybe all the facts aren't correct, but enough evidence points to my initial statement.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Perhaps we should remember that a) no two individuals can even agree on who/what/when/where regarding "the Antichrist" ... and that b) for over half the world's population, the various Judeo-Christian-Islamist mythologies have no meaning nor validity whatsoever.

Fear the real people in this world that want to enslave your minds not the equivalent of the Tooth Fairy on Fear-porn Steroids that is "the Antichrist."


I really dosent matter if People can agree or not. Who the antichrist is, is written in the Bible. The Bible describes who it is.
It is normal for People to preceive what they read differently. Therefor assuming different theories.

The Bible even tells us that not everyone are supposed to understand it eihter. If everyone knew who and what the beast is. Gods Word would not come true. Only the once who are written in the book of life will understand this. And they are not in majority compared to the once who are not written in the book of life. Becuase if they were there would not be a beast.

Revelation 17;17
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

Who saw the nations comin together to fight a bunch of wolves?

Behold not the old caliph but the current even he he is the despised one spoken of by Daniel the prophet he is the head of the anti Christs and the devil is the head of him

He worships satan in the form of an angel

Behold the leader of the islamic state is the anti Christ he will gain all nations save for 3

The coalition will fail, the king of the glorious land will fall Obama will fall the glorious land will be destroyed

And babylon the great is weeps of corpses dead bodies as dung on the ground in the wilderness

Abu bakr all baghdadi will kill all of the holy people to whom it's appointed.

And all who are not written in the book of life will worship his god



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