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originally posted by: ben555
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
this thread is about a mathematical equation wrote by a person. i did not use an equation to form my views.
get over yourself,stop splitting hairs on how i form any of my views.
my comment was aimed at people that are interested in exploring things for themselves.
Its alleviating utter confusion and common misunderstandings of very basic concepts. Logic is math that uses equations so since you don't need equations to form your views, how in the world do you use logic?
For me, when I look up at the clear sky at night, that is all it takes" why are you here then?
are you still following up on "why people who see UFOs think their aliens?" idea? how is your research going??
Speaking of common misunderstandings...
Logic is the use and study of valid reasoning.
logic is math that uses equations. If you state that you use logic, and not equations, you are not using logic.
Math uses logic, logic isn't math.
Now I understand the UFO guys...
originally posted by: ben555
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
this post was about an equation used. i was using logic to describe my way of thinking which was different from using an equation a human has calculated.
your point of logic being used in an equation is obvious,how else would you get it?
good. Explain it to the other guy.
of course you have to do an equation/use logic even doing evey day tasks as crossing the road. your pointing out the obvious again wasting my time and your own.
we dont need you to tell us how to think and why YOU think we are wrong.
logical statements can be expressed mathematically
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: JadeStar
Occam's is exactly right in the part I bolded but wrong when he says 0 is the stronger of the two possibilities.
The fact is we don't know which of the two possibilities is stronger in this case -AT THIS POINT IN TIME-
You got me thinking about this now. So far all we have are zeros. I think its more like we find it or we don't. If we don't, the possibility for each will remain the same since there will always be more ground to cover. Can one possibility be stronger than another? What would tip the scales in your opinion?
I'm thinking things are possible or they aren't with no real strength. Like something can't be more possible than something else unless we bring in probability.
True.
But you have it basically backwards. I won't waste any more time trying to point it out.
Logic is an indispensable part of our daily lives, just as it is an indispensable part of mathematics. Whenever we present a reasoned argument on some topic, and whenever we present a proof of a mathematical fact, we are using logic. In both cases, the logic being used follows exactly the same structures. When used in mathematics, the structure of a logical argument is relatively easy to discern, but when embedded in ordinary language, the logic may not be so readily identifiable.
One area of mathematics that has its roots deep in philosophy is the study of logic. Logic is the study of formal reasoning based upon statements or propositions
logic is math that uses equations. If you state that you use logic, and not equations, you are not using logic.
originally posted by: ben555
a reply to: roadgravel
but he is here because he wants to know why people believe in aliens (lol) but he does not want to accept peoples reasons for for believing in them and will always be on a thread that cant be proved one way or the other.
strange.
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: ben555
For me, when I look up at the clear sky at night, that is all it takes" why are you here then?
I am saying that I believe that intelligent life exists in the universe as do many others. I don't understand your question.
are you still following up on "why people who see UFOs think their aliens?" idea? how is your research going??
I honestly have no idea what you are referring to. Could be any of the 5000 straw man arguments made against me to attack my personal beliefs. Research?
I don't recall discussing anything with you before either. Must have hurt your feelings or something. Sorry.
Personally I am here because I wish to know why people are convinced of alien visitation. Its something I think about a lot.
yeah, it sounds like you realized your mistake and are bailing out.
logic is math that uses equations.