It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: Humanity72
a reply to: Humanity72I'm licensed and carry a Glock 19 on me 90% of the time and I was in the vet office one day when a lady brought a pit bull in (on a leash) he lunged at this other dog and she pulled him back but I'm not ashamed to tell you I had my hand on my Glock.
There were children there and one more act of aggression I would have put a bullet in him with no problem.
originally posted by: sweetspot
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: Humanity72
My problem with you is you think cops are above the law. I ask the question once again if my 2 year old goes missing and i jump over my neighbors fence and shoot there dog will I be charged? If so why does this not apply to the cop?
Vigilantes are normally prosecuted...you probably would be too. Do you have any reason to believe thje kid would be over that fence? In the case above it appears this was an aggressive dog that had complaints about it scaring kids before. You will side wirth the dogs no matter what. Change dog to pedophile and see if you still think the cop would be wrong to use force.
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
I live in a "Stand Your Ground" state and I'm pretty damn sure if charges were issued they would be dropped very quickly.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
originally posted by: Humanity72
a reply to: Humanity72I'm licensed and carry a Glock 19 on me 90% of the time and I was in the vet office one day when a lady brought a pit bull in (on a leash) he lunged at this other dog and she pulled him back but I'm not ashamed to tell you I had my hand on my Glock.
There were children there and one more act of aggression I would have put a bullet in him with no problem.
Ya cause shooting in small room containing children is very responsible.
I bet you would have been charged with a crime for doing so, and rightfully so.
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
No in that case the owner would have been asked to secure the dog and if he complied everything would have been fine. If he refused and the dog was lunging then yes he very well might have been shot.
originally posted by: FraggleRock
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
I honestly believe this dog could have been on a leash, in full control of it's owner, and there would still be at least one person justifying the actions of the officer.
originally posted by: sweetspot
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
Maybe people that understand the raw untamed danger that dogs can be. I once saw a dog about tear the arm off a 4 year old in Jason's Deli parking lot.
My 8 year old daughter has a permanent scar on her face from a shih tzu bite. Thank goodness we had a very talented plastic surgeon on staff in the ER.
originally posted by: sweetspot
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
Maybe people that understand the raw untamed danger that dogs can be. I once saw a dog about tear the arm off a 4 year old in Jason's Deli parking lot.
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: FraggleRock
Whats funny is im not a obsessed dog freak. I would never put a animal above a human. But I can see right from wrong.
The threat was real it just did not materialize. Trust me from the look at the other customers in the office including the vet tech that took the dog quickly into a secured room I would have had plenty of witnesses on my side.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Humanity72
Does stand your ground apply to your imaginary threat assessment of a dog??
In all honestly I don't think bringing racism into the conversation is appropriate.
originally posted by: ker2010
originally posted by: sweetspot
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: sweetspot
Actually no if you read one of my past posts I said the kid that was attacked in a video and saved by a cat is a prime example of a dog that needed to be shot..
You guys keep saying this owner wasn't responsible (and maybe not). Well I posted a story of a VERY responsible owner who had a seven foot fence that was closed and very secure! And his dog still got shot. So I guess it was still the owners fault? :/ Scarey.
The only people that can agree to this is cops or people related to them in some way.
Maybe people that understand the raw untamed danger that dogs can be. I once saw a dog about tear the arm off a 4 year old in Jason's Deli parking lot.
I once saw a cat scratch someones leg up, all cats need to be shot. I once saw a black person break the law all black people need to be arrested. I once saw a white person break the law, guess that means i need to be arrested.
Thats the logic you are implying LOL
If the officer had to go in the backyard to search for the child he had to do it and at the point the dog is unsecured.
originally posted by: FraggleRock
a reply to: Humanity72
I'm not emotional at all. You cannot claim an owner can avoid having their dog getting shot by securing it. And then support an officer who shot a dog that was secure in the owners fenced in yard. Given such an inconsistent stance I think my statement is a more than possible scenario.