I've reached an unhappy conclusion from which I want to be dissuaded.
Of course, rabid foam is dripping off the jaws of many of those talking about the Middle-East. Not that there's anything wrong with rabid people (or
dogs), so please don't suicide bomb my house for blasphemy or singing to Western music. But because of the crazed and anti-rational nature of some
of the comments, I'm being pushed to drastic conclusions.
Everybody says they want peace and an acceptance of the other parties in the area, except for the Islamic leaders that don't say that, but leave them
aside for the moment. How do we get the opposing parties to talk to each other at a peace table? I know, have one side call the other genocidal,
NAZI dogs, filled with blood lust. I remember seeing that on Page 92 of Dale Carnegie's great book, "How to Win Friends and Influence People."
Later on in the book, one can learn about the relaxed atmosphere caused by saying things as mentioned in this description of the Hamas Charter:
The charter states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state
in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.
So, now that everybody is relaxed and ready to talk, let's find a solution.
Of course, the solution can't be based on a cease fire, Hamas treats cease fires with a 50-50 attitude lately. But maybe we can find a place where
Hamas and Israel can reach an agreement. Here's part of an article from 2012:
Khaled Meshal is the top political leader of Hamas, and entered Gaza for the first time this weekend. Here are some of his remarks to a mass rally
celebrating Hamas’s 25th anniversary:
"Palestine, from the river to the sea, from north to south, is our land. Not an inch of it can be conceded. We cannot recognize the legitimacy of
Israel’s occupation of Palestine. There is no legitimacy to occupation, and therefore no legitimacy for Israel, no matter how long it will take.
Liberating Palestine, all of Palestine, is a duty, a right and a goal….we will liberate [Jerusalem] inch by inch, stone by stone, Islamic and
Christian holy places. Israel has no right in Jerusalem…."
As to the recent UN vote giving “Palestine” the status of “non-member state,” Meshal said:
"Liberation first, then the state. The real state is the product of liberation, not the product of negotiations. Holy war and armed resistance are
the real and right path to liberation and recovery of rights."
So, we now know that Hamas wants the elimination of Israel. According to some polls, a majority of Israelis do not want to be eliminated. But they
might not represent the real Israel, the poll may just have focused on the "Bitter Clingers." PressTV, Al-Jazeera, and RT, all assure us that the
true Israelis want to be eliminated, so Hamas has a duty to do so as quickly and as completely as possible.
But assume for a moment, that by some strange twist of fate the Israeli government doesn't want their country to be eliminated. Is the best course
of action to send Hamas a letter asking them not to? I'm surprised the Israelis haven't thought of that.
While Israel is trying to figure out how not to become a "former" country, Hamas gets the world to yell about the fiendish blockade Israel has
imposed which prevents them from getting concrete for hospital and school construction. Israel is denounced as war mongers when they suggest that
Hamas use some of the concrete lining the dozens of tunnels coming out in Israeli territory, or the hundreds of tunnels coming out in Egypt.
Hamas is also trying to figure out a possible plan for peace. They decide that they haven't reached out to the average Israeli citizen to make their
case. Another problem Hamas believes exists is that Israeli citizens don't get sufficient opportunity to discuss these issues among themselves.
So in the interest of explaining their side of the story, they reach out to Israeli citizens day after day, and all throughout Israel, now that they
have better means to "Reach out and touch someone." While half of Israel's population is hiding out in shelters, they have the opportunity to
discuss Hamas' political points and come to conclusions.
Speaking of shelters, Hamas has done a lot of digging underground. It's really too bad that some one spilled coffee on their plans to build shelters
for their people. Oh, well, you can't make martyrs without cracking a few skulls. Besides, they make good publicity photos, which the world will
show over and over. It's no problem if they run out of pictures, Hamas has discovered how to create fake victim photos. They're not very
believable, but their good enough to cause some more emotional outrage.
Israel, due to it's neo-fascist, Black and White thinking, accepts only two possibilities in their narrow minded way, stop Hamas, or don't stop
Hamas. Those war mongers somehow think that stopping Hamas is a good idea. But the world knows better. If Israel does more than any other army in
history to protect civilians in an urban area under attack, it proves that their intent is to kill kids. It's a shame that those 16 year old
"kids" don't get a chance to gently put down their rifles, the stocks get scratched when they're dropped.
Since Israel is widely condemned for attempting to protect civilians, maybe the world is right and Israel is doing it all wrong. If they
try to protect civilians, maybe that would receive approval.
Oh, on a serious note? Hamas has admitted to firing three rockets at Dimona, the site of Israel's nuclear reactor. Iron Dome got one, the other two
missed. Consider, for a moment, a Fukushima in Israel. I don't suppose Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran,and Syria would be too happy if radiation started
coming their way.
Iran, by the way, is one of Hamas' great supporters and funders. How far is Iran from getting a short-range nuke? When they get one, might they
share with Hamas?
Well, what solution do these attempts at peace (also known as conquest) lead us to? This is the unhappy conclusion I need to be dissuaded from. The
only thing I can see is that Hamas must be completely destroyed as a threat. Move them to Antarctica, spray them all with pig fat, or saddest, but
most reasonable of all, kill them. Kill them quickly and completely.
I don't want to discuss what Emir so and so said to Rabbi whosis at the end of the 1800s. It makes no real, practical sense, to discuss 1948 or
1967, or whether the Jews aren't really Jews, but displaced Reptillians. The question is what to do with a terror organization that gives every
appearance of wanting to go to paradise through committing "Suicide by IDF."
I suspect this thread will suffer numerous attacks to divert it to some discussion about "well, they stole it from us by bribing the UN." Or,
"Look, they ignored a UN resolution." (Try to find even one resolution directed against Palestine. They must be perfect.)
If you can't separate the sarcasm from the rest of the thread, ask me.
P.s. If you don't understand what I've written ( a very real possibility), just offer a way to guarantee Israel's safety with more than another