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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: sosobad
Western evidence has been released through several media channels simultaneously - I have seen it all myself but don't use Twitter at all - it wasn't solely released on Twitter and the fact some keep trying to hammer home this point smacks to me of an attempt to smear it, badly I might add.
And it's all a bit hypocritical as the separatists have been using YouTube, Twitter and Facebook themselves.
Go travel. Stop believing what you are told. The rest of the world is similar. I recently spent time in China. They love their children. You have no moral compass.
originally posted by: GargIndia
a reply to: Xcathdra
1. Americans have provided arms and money to Kiev.
2. Americans have provided information for targeting rebel forces.
3. American spies are all over Ukraine.
4. Americans are waging a brutal and relentless economic war against Russia, who is primary benefactor of rebels.
All the above provide motive for USA to falsify information about nature and intent of MH17 tragedy.
1. Americans have provided arms and money to Kiev.
2. Americans have provided information for targeting rebel forces.
3. American spies are all over Ukraine.
4. Americans are waging a brutal and relentless economic war against Russia, who is primary benefactor of rebels.
All the above provide motive for USA to falsify information about nature and intent of MH17 tragedy.
Russian spokespeople aren't taking selfies with #freedonetsk, they are conducting their business with a bit more decorum than America.
Alexander Sotkin may have thought he was harmlessly posting selfies to his friends back home, but last night the 24-year-old Russian soldier was at the centre of international intrigue.
For the photographs he has posted on the web appear to offer evidence that Vladimir Putin’s forces have been operating inside Ukraine.
Geotagging – the process of adding a location to a photograph taken by a mobile phone camera – creates a trail that leads Sotkin, a sergeant in the signals corps, from a military base in southern Russia across the troublesome border to villages inside rebel-held parts of Ukraine.
The fact of the matter is if they had hard evidence they would be presenting it to NATO and the UN, instead you have this shameful display of propaganda at work trying to get the zombies on the social media to give them approval in getting into a war with Russia.
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: sosobad
Why do you think they aren't giving this evidence to the UN (what's the point anyway - Russia is on the UNSC!) and NATO (they are, btw, several NATO meetings have been held already concerning precisely this.
As for your "decorum" comment, seems Vlad is quite keen on using Twitter to promote his own image anyway - He seems very keen to post all sorts of Photo op's with War Memorials, Local industyr groups and Church leaders where possible.
I fail to see how he is a spokesperson for Russia... And where he is holding up a ##freedonetsk sign, can you point it out for me?
I suggest if you want to talk about the plane or Crimea you go to one of the numerous threads about them, so you think it's ok for America to lie?
You tell me who has something to hide
No, he isn't and you know why? Because he has realised he has bitten off more than he can chew and is, behind the scenes, probably quite keen to drop all this if only he can save face. There is simply no way Russia can win any conflict without going nuclear
And why do you think the West is pushing for WW3? What a total absurd thing to say - what possible benefit could there be from having a major ding-dong with Russia? There is a difference between standing up against a bully eager to bring back the "good old days" of the Soviet Empire and pushing for World War - and yes, Putin does want a return to those days, he stated as much back 2001 when he was made PM..
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sosobad
I fail to see how he is a spokesperson for Russia... And where he is holding up a ##freedonetsk sign, can you point it out for me?
And I fail to see what your point is, because now people cannot post a selfie with their own personal feelings and beliefs?
I suggest if you want to talk about the plane or Crimea you go to one of the numerous threads about them, so you think it's ok for America to lie?
And what I posted as a reply is relevant to your post, sorry if it bothers you.
And do you really want to get into it about who is telling lies about Ukraine, because I will be happy to oblige you on those lies.
originally posted by: sosobad
Now you are not making sense, if he has bitten off more than he chew why would he shell the Ukrainian boarder, you are advocating he is shelling the Ukraine and then say he realises he can't handle it and want to save face. Why by your reasoning would he shell? Makes no sense
originally posted by: sosobad
So it has nothing to do with the brics countries threatening the dollar? You seem to forget what happened to the last few countries that tried to move away from the dollar, the campaign of hate and vilification leading up to their demise? How are those countries doing nowadays? If you don't remember I can remind you
Oh they can but why is she doing it on a government run Twitter account?
A) He isn't a spokesperson for Russia and you where being disingenuous
B) Your response is about 2 entirely different subjects you tried to inject here because you don't have anything coherent to say on this subject.
Try fixing the 9-11 cover up before thinking anyone is going to listen to much of the state propaganda thats comeing out of the USA.