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As Russia continues to deny culpability for the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine, European officials say that black box data shows the doomed airplane was hit by a missile explosion, according to CBS News.
Data from the black box points to a "massive explosive decompression," with the plane's fuselage getting hit by shrapnel from the explosion.
This is consistent with a photo of a piece of the plane's wreckage that shows obvious signs of shrapnel damage, according to The Aviationist. The missile likely detonated on the right side of the plane, sending shrapnel clear through the aircraft, eventually shooting out of the left side.
Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
originally posted by: Xcathdra
MH17 Black Box Data Shows Evidence Of Missile Strike
As Russia continues to deny culpability for the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine, European officials say that black box data shows the doomed airplane was hit by a missile explosion, according to CBS News.
Data from the black box points to a "massive explosive decompression," with the plane's fuselage getting hit by shrapnel from the explosion.
This is consistent with a photo of a piece of the plane's wreckage that shows obvious signs of shrapnel damage, according to The Aviationist. The missile likely detonated on the right side of the plane, sending shrapnel clear through the aircraft, eventually shooting out of the left side.
Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
Now what?
Data from the black box points to a "massive explosive decompression," with the plane's fuselage getting hit by shrapnel from the explosion.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: DonVoigt
You do realize I posted the articles and stated now what. At no point did I suggest anything other than where do we go from here.
originally posted by: Bassago
a reply to: Xcathdra
Data from the black box points to a "massive explosive decompression," with the plane's fuselage getting hit by shrapnel from the explosion.
Which means what exactly? Was it an air to air missile from one of the Ukrainian fighter tailing it? Was it from a SAM and if so whose was it?
That hairpin turn the plane took before finally going down almost seems like the took evasive action before finally being downed.
We need some forensic evidence showing what hit the plane and something more than wild accusations and finger pointing to come to a real understanding.
Also why did Ukrainian air traffic control have the plane drop to within 1000 feet of the no fly zone?
I'd like to hear those Ukrainian ATC tapes (that were confiscated) on what exactly was said but I'm sure we'll never get close to those.
OK I'll say it, IMO this was done by Kiev as a false flag. The US seems set on war with Russia and the neo-nazi's in Kiev seem accommodating.
Just my 2 cents.
originally posted by: DonVoigt
a reply to: Xcathdra
You do realize that black box data can't determine who shot the missle , whether it came from the Ukrainian army or the rebels our Russia, or if it was fired from the ground our from the air as some have suggested. There is no valuable information that could possibly come from the black box unless one of the pilots saw it coming and said into their microphone,"there's a missle coming straight at us" , and even if that was in there there is no way to determine who fired it. Unless the U.S. government is releasing satellite imagery as irrefutable proof of who fired the missle there is no way to determine anything, and with all this wonderful technology the government has why haven't they released satellite imagery of the event? At this point anything that is said is all speculation.
As Russia continues to deny culpability for the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine, European officials say that black box data shows the doomed airplane was hit by a missile explosion, according to CBS News.
That hairpin turn the plane took before finally going down almost seems like the took evasive action before finally being downed.
originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: Bassago
That hairpin turn the plane took before finally going down almost seems like the took evasive action before finally being downed.
Which could mean there was more than one missile.
If there was more than one, that might indicate this was an air to air affair and not a SAM.
A sharp and unexpected turn from a passenger aircraft would seem to indicate they were trying to avoid something flying nearby. Perhaps the SU-25 pilot(s) buzzed MH17 before they opened up, causing avoidance action by MH17?
Perhaps the SU-25 pilot assumed a large and cumbersome target like MH17 presented would only require a dumb missile like an unguided S-8 or S-24 etc., but missed when MH17 performed a sharp turn away from the dumb missile?
The explosive decompression recorded on the black box and the shrapnel damage evident on some of the wreckage could also be from explosives planted on board MH17, or from a suicide bomber on the flight and so on.
This would result in identical data on the black box and also account for the shrapnel damage.
Without a thorough investigation, everything, including the flight data recording, and the finger pointing and accusations of blame, is all baseless supposition and political manoeuvring.
If that happened it would be on the black box from the pilot's dialogue. The fact they did not talk about it means it didn't happen.
The fact they did not talk about it means it didn't happen.