originally posted by: LucidWarrior
a reply to: 2012newstart
That would be God, my friend. I personally don't recognize the pope, for he is just a man, no closer to God than you or I.
I didn't say the pope is "god" or his substitute, everyone is free to make choices good vs evil and to discern. Seems you misunderstood me. If one
looks for spiritual guidance, and that is a big IF, he would probably look for holy persons who understand the matter well (not fanatics religious!).
Not for equally educated people from other areas who do not have necessarily the same in spirituality, both as knowledge and as experience.
The other way is to take position without discernment or advice only because of someone's feelings at the moment, or perhaps someone's influence over
conscience and mind. We know we are influenced by many sources both visible and invisible,and not all sources are good.
Perhaps now I am more clear than before. Obviously it is a long topic the discernment of ET. Unfortunately, not that many people want to make it using
FACTS available online. Not many people want to talk of concrete ET races how good or bad they could possibly be.
Instead, many people who pretend to know God better than others, on personal level or in some fundamental group, and those are people from all
denominations, prefer to demonize the ET before any reason or fact. It is their decision to do so and the consequences are theirs too.
The failure to do ETs discernment by reason and FACTS is equal or bigger on the side of Religious consecrated persons from all churches. They hide
from discussion as if they hide from the devil. Their skewed and in some cases very uneducated views of appointed religious in turn give ground for
fanatical groups to demonize ETs at will. It is a time the big churches to get out of the self-imposed limbo and taboo on ET topics. And to tell us
clearly the ETs are as many as God created them, probably as many as the stars in the sky (*) It is a time to hear Religious speaking who of the ETs
is bad and who is good, and who can convert in the process. Many denounced the film Noah. There, the Nephilim converted and died saving Noah's family.
Is it possible to convert Aliens who sinned in the past? Humans on earth are exactly such a case. And not all of them are converted by now, 1980+
years after the sacrifice of the Son of God.
(*) God's promise to Abraham his descendants will be as numerous as the stars in heaven. First we should notice the word heaven is freely used
throughout the Bible to name what we call today space or Universe filled with stars. The stars are always in heaven (not in hell) in the Bible
Second, if the descendants of Abraham are to become as many as the trillions upon trillions of stars known today (perhaps very conservative estimate),
then it is very logical the planet Earth is not enough for that. It assumes OTHER habitable planets with life on them, capable of supporting the life
of those descendants of Abraham who will opt to live there and spread the Revelation of God given on Earth. It does not deny the existence of other
intelligent beings. Affirming the existence of other life-supporting planets, it is close to mind to assume those life-supporting planets already
supported intelligent life in their past. It is to notice their past might be billions of years LONGER than that of planet earth, and certainly longer
than the earth's civilizations. I.e. we are talking of more advanced races and civilizations over there who had not several thousand years development
but millions or more.
Here also comes the vision of Peter of animals of all kind, that pope Francis quoted in his homily about baptizing Martians.
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