My First Post: The United Nations, Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, and the brand new Sustainable

a reply to: xuenchen

Do you have any idea how much CO2 and methane those lumpy brown evil of all evil produce?... WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE ALL DEFECATION WORLDWIDE!!!

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: xuenchen

Do you have any idea how much CO2 and methane those lumpy brown evil of all evil produce?... WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE ALL DEFECATION WORLDWIDE!!!

Hmmm.

I wonder why the U.N. hasn't devised a CO2 "recovery" system by now.

Think of the savings to the soda bottlers !!

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: xuenchen

Do you have any idea how much CO2 and methane those lumpy brown evil of all evil produce?... WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE ALL DEFECATION WORLDWIDE!!!

Hmmm.

I wonder why the U.N. hasn't devised a CO2 "recovery" system by now.

Think of the savings to the soda bottlers !!

ROFLMAO... ouch, it hurt to laugh so much. That was a good one.

We are laughing and making jokes, but a lot of people don't seem to understand the severity of these claims on how the UN, and world elites, plan to do all these "miracles" despite the fact that we know exactly how they have been trying to solve these problems for decades.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
No, that is incorrect, accusers in all forms of justice and argumentation are required to produce evidence, Not the organization or person who is being accused. . If you accuse the UN of moving towards totalitarianism, of being corrupt, or being nefarious, and so on, it is upon you to provide concrete evidence. It is otherwise called slander or libel.

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You want an example? Apart from that which has been presented already.... How about the "Oil For Food Scandal"? How many members of the UN were found to have participated on that program to make money for themselves with oil from Iraq meanwhile people in Iraq were dying?... Even the son of Kofi Annan was found to be among those UN officials who benefitted from the oil for food program. The Oil for Food Program was supposedly developed to exchange oil for food for the people of Iraq, but instead many businessmen including UN officials from the member states made large profits which should have been used to feed the people of Iraq.

www.economist.com...

Or how about the scandals of UN peacekeepers shooting innocent unarmed people, or raping women and children?

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In recent days and weeks, scandal-plagued UN war-making forces — dubbed “peacekeepers” in an Orwellian example of deceptive doublespeak — have faced accusations on three primary fronts. The first is a lawsuit filed in U.S. courts noting that the global entity’s soldiers were responsible for a ferocious outbreak of cholera in Haiti that has claimed almost 10,000 lives so far. Then there is a new report outlining widespread corruption within the organization’s forces and the lack of accountability.

Finally, fresh accusations of UN troops raping and sexually exploiting civilians in occupied nations — a common occurrence, as The New American and countless other sources have documented — emerged out of Mali. So-called “blue helmets” with the UN “peacekeeping” mission in the war-torn nation, dubbed the “United Nations Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in Mali” (MINUSMA), for example, have been accused of rape and other serious misconduct.

The UN, which has more than 6,000 troops and self-styled “police” in Mali after rebels in the north declared independence and a coup unseated the regime in the capital city Bamako, acknowledged the accusations and claimed to be acting on them. A spokesman for the dictator-dominated planetary entity also alleged that the UN mission worked to preserve evidence and assist victims, implausibly claiming that there was “zero tolerance” for sexual abuse perpetrated by its forces.
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www.thenewamerican.com...

Geez, do you really want to get into that?...

Hey Xuenchen, it's amazing how fast the op, and the pro-UN members stopped posting and responding... Not to mention that it seems quite apparent that these people/members don't even want to look at these issues...

Meanwhile the UN and world elites like Bill Gates alongside his wife, George Soros, and others like Oprah Winfred etc proclaim that "this is for the good of those people and everyone else", the truth is quite the contrary. Notice how for example in the presentation done by Bill Gates they post pictures of "happy people" meanwhile the truth is that these programs are not only sterilizing people without their consent, but these "aid programs" also pay for operations that are not meant to help those people, but rather as another way to sterilize them without their consent.

The majority are left unattended and without any medical care whatsoever. Many women die bleeding to death, but of course none of this is shown by Bill Gates, and the rest of the global elites. instead they proclaim to people in the west "this is what we need to do"... BS... Those people in third countries who have been sterilized, or have even died from these botched operations are "PEOPLE", they are not numbers. They are people like you and me, and it is very telling how the "pro-UN" and "pro-global plans to combat Climate Change" avoid any conversation having to do with these real issues...

People try to "rationalize" the need for these programs, and they don't even realize that the same thing which has been happening in third world nations are the same plans that the global elite have for the west with the implementation of the One World Government. Through the implementation of agenda 21 people will be relocated, as you will have no private property and eventually you will be situated in a city of their choice, not your choice.

How do people think that the UN will be able to make sure that "everyone will have equal rights and control over land and other forms of property"?... They will do this by taking away the right to property in countries like the U.S. In the end the people in control over these lands will be the UN and world elites, it won't be "everyone"...

Of course, billions, upon billions of dollars will be used to implement all these programs, which will help make sure people in western nations will have even lower standards of living than we have right now, as economies won't be able to sustain these measures. These further economic problems will be used as another excuse to give "more power to the elites and agencies like the UN."

Notice also how the op himself/herself acknowledged that "these programs will be implemented in EVERY COUNTRY for the next 15 years"...
Where are the votes made by people in every country on whether they agree with these draconian measurements being implemented in their countries?... Have any of you seen announcements asking for people to go vote whether we want to accept these measures?... And these bastards claim that "it will be with the consent of the people", which of course it's a lie...

Don't fall into their schemes. They try to make it sound like "it's something we need, and it's for the good of all" but that is not what the evidence is actually showing. In the end this plan is simple, total control, and you and I won't have ANY control at all. You won't have property, because it needs to be guaranteed that everyone has access to even what used to be your property. If you have a farm that has belonged to your family for generations, agenda 21 will take away your right to that property "to feed everyone". In the end the contrary will occur.

First the UN and world elites will implement a rationing system, in which they will tell you how much food and what food you can eat. And if you think going hungry is going to feed other people guess again. These same programs have been implemented in countries like Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia under Stalin, etc, etc. It has always been the same, instead of feeding more people what will happen is that hunger will increase in western nations eventually. For a time it might even look like the programs are helping, but within a few years or even less rationing will become more and more stringent, and people will barely have anything to eat.

People like me have gone through that, and we know that these claims that "it's for the good of all" are just ways to lure people into thinking these programs will do good. After all, who among the unsuspecting people will think that "bringing equality and equal access to all to property" is a bad idea? Such altruistic claims are meant to lure people into compliance, and acceptance of these measures.

Below are other examples how the UN itself, alongside the world elites, have been implementing forced sterilizations in third world nations.

Peru: UNFPA Supported Fujimori's Forced Sterilization Campaigns

July 22, 2002
Volume 4/ Number 17

Dear Colleague:

An independent congressional committee of the Peruvian government has charged that the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA) supported the forced sterilization campaigns executed by former Peruvian dictator Alberto Fujimori. The report of the Peruvian congressional commission provides further evidence that claims circulating in the press that UNFPA supports only voluntary family planning in China and elsewhere are false.

Steve W. Mosher
President

Peru: UNFPA Supported Fujimori’s Forced Sterilization Campaigns

In “an exceptional case of national legislation,” the government of Peru in the early 1990s—under former dictator Alberto Fujimori—established the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA) as the “Technical Secretary” of Fujimori’s infamous forced sterilization campaigns, states a report issued by a special commission of the Peruvian Congress.

Fujimori’s National Population Program consisted of the systematic and forced sterilization of over 100,000 women, during so-called “ligation festivals,” particularly aimed at rural women and minorities.
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www.pop.org...

Fact Sheet

Funding UNFPA
China's Coercive Population Control Program

Summary: The United Nations Population Fund (referred to as the UNFPA) has been a strong supporter of China=s coercive population control program. In 1985 Congress passed the Kemp-Kasten Amendment, which gave the President the authority to deny U.S. funds to any organization or program that supports or participates in the management of a program of coercive abortion or involuntary sterilization. The UNFPA has been denied U.S. funding because of its support of the China program. Abortion advocates oppose this policy.
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www.nchla.org...


You actually think these programs will be for your own good, and the good of everyone and the entire planet?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Hey Xuenchen, it's amazing how fast the op, and the pro-UN members stopped posting and responding... Not to mention that it seems quite apparent that these people/members don't even want to look at these issues...

Yup.

Looks like the typical thread abandonment.