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To shoot or not to shoot? One California homeowners fate is being decided.

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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They were trespassing, robbing him, and harming him.

He had every right to pursue and kill them. Period.




posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
Shooting people running away in the back running down an alley is not godamn self defence..jeeeesuz christ wtf is wrong with some of you..sttttaaaay the fawk away from me.


Stay the fawk away from you? Why? Do you break into people's homes often?

If I caught you trespassing on my property attempting to rob me, and when I catch you, you beat me--if I don't kill you at that moment, you had better beleive I would chase you and gun you down.

Unlike the oldman, I would have drug their bodies back onto my property.

If you are not robbing me or harming me, then there is no reason for me to kill you.
edit on 27-7-2014 by LewsTherinThelamon because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They were trespassing, robbing him, and harming him.

He had every right to pursue and kill them. Period.


The Judicial system doesn't agree with you.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: Wrabbit2000

They were trespassing, robbing him, and harming him.

He had every right to pursue and kill them. Period.


The Judicial system doesn't agree with you.


The judicial system can suck it.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



So?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



So?


My god I hate summer break. So you are saying that you would murder someone?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: intrepid
Currently, if I understand that the issue is, it is in the grey area of the law. Where it is both legal and illegal, hence why the DA is trying to decide if they are going to follow up with charges, and what to charge the man with. The man's lawyers are already working on a defense and seeing if they can best use the law to get their client off. Until he goes to court and loses the trial, he is innocent of all charges.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig

The only possible defense would be that he was addled from the attack. Might work. Aside from that he's screwed himself.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig
He is 80yrs old and a broken collarbone..how long is he going to give chase?,(edit) imo after one body is laying in the street its probably not time to find your keys and get in the car, why does everyone have such a hard time admitting the old fella had a momentary lapse of reason..he was pissed off and I don't blame him. Not his right to shoot anyone though once they are running away and not an immediat threat. Its the law..show me otherwise.
I hear people "well they pushed the old man down and robbed him" popular argument but not legal.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:37 AM
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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
You do NOT have the right to shoot someone running down the street because they robbed you..sounds like a well informed legal argument I might hear in a kindergarten or grade school class..not legal..I dont need you to deliver justice unless your directly in peril..I have no issue with that.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: intrepid

Some people do not understand tactical patience. They don't care about the training, or the considerations of combat.

They think the ends justifies the means. It does not.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



So?


My god I hate summer break. So you are saying that you would murder someone?


I'm not a troll. I don't see it as murder, I see it as refusing to be a victim.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
I dont need dumb ..but wellmeaning mofos shooting down my street..get it?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

There shouldn't have to be a legal argument for anything. The dude took care of himself, and now he's safe, and people should leave him alone.


The nitpicking over how the man chose to defend himself is irrelevant.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



So?


My god I hate summer break. So you are saying that you would murder someone?


I'm not a troll. I don't see it as murder, I see it as refusing to be a victim.


Shooting someone who is running from you in the back is murder.

You'd be charged with murder on a battlefield, what makes you think you wouldn't be charged with murder in an American neighborhood?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon
I dont need dumb ..but wellmeaning mofos shooting down my street..get it?



That's why we need to get rid if guns and start using swords instead.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

And that's what is call murder.



So?


My god I hate summer break. So you are saying that you would murder someone?


I'm not a troll. I don't see it as murder, I see it as refusing to be a victim.


Shooting someone who is running from you in the back is murder.

You'd be charged with murder on a battlefield, what makes you think you wouldn't be charged with murder in an American neighborhood?


That is the Single most pedantic thing I have ever heard.



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