originally posted by: HauntWok
As I have pointed out multiple times, there will never be one law that will prevent all crime from ever happening. Stop trying to use that point, it's
sad and idiotic.
i don't think anyone's suggesting that you said exactly that.
As I have pointed out multiple times, it was y'all that said that the background check law was not being enforced.
we have said that it is not ALWAYS being enforced. but it's not just this...it's other things that are not being enforced...the problem isn't that we
need more laws, it's that we need the current laws to be enforced..this would have a net positive result, when it comes to instances of violence of
Now, we have legislation that if made law would force the background check law to be enforced.
where? the thing you posted as your example does not do this at all....
all it does is reengages this measure so that it works and therefore eliminates people like I listed in the OP from getting a firearm
The gun lobby is actually fighting against this (for some stupid reason) It's actually what you say you want to happen, background checks
weeding out the people that shouldn't have anything to do with firearms from obtaining them legally like the people in the OP were able to
i think i've demonstrated that it's not the "gun lobby" doing this, it's the idiotic club mentality in the congress...you have yet to show us exactly
how the "gun lobby" is directly influencing either legislation, or actual enforcement of existing laws.
But for some weird reason, you want to argue against it? Why? It's your valid point after all. I suspect that you actually understand this,
because this thread has deteriorated into asinine trollish comments by the pro gun forum gang instead of actual discussion.
i'm sorry that you feel that posting facts, and pointing out the numerous inaccuracies of not only your arguments, but also of the information you
present as evidence supporting those arguments, qualifies as "asinine trollish comments"
Yes, I am frustrated at this point. Because I have given you information after information, only to be ridiculed about my job, nit picked about
crap that has nothing to do with the point at hand, when I present a new valid argument that does support my original point, it's buried in prolific
postings about nonsense.
yes, you have presented materials, but they have been either incomplete, misrepresented, self-serving, inaccurate, or flat out untrue. now, i
commented about the whole "lol, he's dumb because he works at a car wash" thing...i actually stuck up for you, which should say something not only
about my character, but my sincerity with regard to having an actual conversation on the subject...remember that next time you wanna libel me, or try
to imply i'm something i'm not.
Do you all understand that gun violence in this country is an actual problem? If you do, do you understand that there are people that are
working against trying to alleviate those problems while at the same time trying to not infringe on your right to keep and bear arms?
yes, we have MANY problems in this country....violence is one of them, and "gun violence" is a subset of that..it is not the massive epidemic you seem
to think it is. and yes, there are people working against it...they're the partisan club morons that make up our gloriously dysfunctional federal
But instead, your frustrating paranoia only leads me to conclude that you don't mind all the actual gun violence that is entirely preventable
in this country. That in fact, you encourage it, welcome it, and celebrate it.
what paranoia? just because we disagree with your specific, interpretive brand of "understanding" of how things ought to work, does not mean we are ok
with people dying...i really wish you'd stop misrepresenting everyone here, just because they don't agree with you.
Otherwise, any sane person would actually want to do something constructive about it. Like enforce background check laws that may prevent
people who should not have a firearm from obtaining a firearm legally.
we ARE sane, and we DO want this....and there are already laws on the books for it....making ANOTHER law isn't going to magically cause the law to be
enforced, because the enforcers are still lazy, and can't be bothered...
I get it, your a forum gang, it's your task on this website to completely disrupt topics that go against your pre-conceived ideology, any
thread that pops up that is even slightly critical of the pervasive gun culture in America you descend upon like wolves hunting for the
we're not a gang.....we're individual, like-minded posters who prefer to deal in facts, and reality, rather than idealistic, pie in the sky notions,
like the one that says that redundant laws mean less crime...you can be critical all you want...it's when you start suggesting things that infringe
upon a right that the citizens of the country have had since it's inception, that's when you start to get some heated remarks....especially given the
amount of infringement we're already enduring at the hands of the very federal government who's JOB it is to PROTECT, PRESERVE, and UPHOLD that
right... can you blame people for being upset?
cont. next post.
edit on 7-31-2014 by Daedalus because: (no reason given)