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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here but the U.S. has the ability to gather cell, microwave and landline communications at will and most likely can crack any code the Iranians come up with. Fiberoptic cables are good against eavesdropping but special forces can tap unless entire network is checked and guarded.
Originally posted by stumason
If the US/West is so good at gathering info, where is the shred of evidence that points to a nuclear weapon? Or have they moved them to Syria also? lol..
And I would love to know how these all-powerful SpecOps are supposed to "Tap" into a fibre optic. As soon as it is cut, the Rx is gonna lose transmission, and with any half decent network that will cause alarms. Also, whoever is receiving the signal will suddenly lose it. I work in telecoms, and I know for a fact that you cannot tap into a fibre without the network ops guys knowing about it.
Originally posted by Sep
Phoenix, just out of curiosity what is the name of the site?
stumason I'm not in comms so I am flying by the seat of the pants so to speak - what happens if the fiber is cut in two places at the same time on the same line, one looking like an accident and in an obvious place, second cut to install monitoring device in an apparently undisturbed portion of the fiber line before a repair crew can fix the first break. Would that work?
Originally posted by Phoenix
In the upper right of this image you can see the Iranians burying several 300,000 foot buildings under about ten meters of earth and concrete.
The buildings are suspected to be for uranium processing and enrichment.
This image is nearly two years old. The smaller building building in the center is not yet roofed and you can see supports.
Just what are they hiding? an aspirin factory?
a)the Spec Ops guys, in the middle of the night, in the desert, and have the right tools, can successfully splice the fibre and put their kit on in a reasonable amount of time, before being discovered. Splicing can take hours, so this is unlikely.
If they had something to hide they wouldnt have invited IAEA to visit the site. And the IAEA inspectors visited the site on the 21 February 2003. Then General Mohamed ElBaradei visited the site. If they had something to hide then they would not have allowed the inspectors in. Maybe just maybe they are burring it because the Americans and Israelis have time and time again threatened to attack it but that might just be me.
Remember guys and gals the infamous IAEA was inspecting sites in N Korea, Pakistan, and India. Seems they all "confussed" the inspectors and got NUKES. Lybia has already come clean about their nuke program. IAEA missed that one too. Check into the IAEA procedures, you'll find it is a complete JOKE.
Personally I think those barely covered up secret buildings could well be decoys to attract cruise missile fire, for all I know they could be centrifuging their stuff downtown Tehran under the busy marketsquares, while erecting some thick empty bunkers (or containing less critical studff) here and there....
An earlier draft of the IAEA report, seen by The Telegraph, said that Iran had manufactured material to use with the beryllium that it had purchased as a "nuclear initiator in some designs of nuclear weapons".
A spokesman for the IAEA conceded that the agency had removed any mention of beryllium from its report, but said that the change was insignificant. She said: "There are all kinds of technical details in first drafts which are later removed. That's part of the drafting process."
Jacky Sanders, the American ambassador to the IAEA, however, said that Iran's assertions that it has never acquired or used beryllium were no longer reliable.
Originally posted by Curio
And that's what annoys so many people - with the USA it's all "take" and no "give", for want of a better expression. With the USA it's all about aggression all the time - you need to be strong when you have to, sure, but also be prepared to look at the causes of problems and learn from them. They really didn't learn anything from 9/11
Thanks for the answer it helps to learn. Does that leave switching centers and signal boosting apparatus along the fiber line as the vulnerable points?
Originally posted by Phoenix
Sep to my understanding the underground facilities at Natanz were not completed nor would there have been time to do equipment fit-out by February 2003 - so the IAEA inspected what? made conclusions based on what? - empty and incomplete buildings. Sure I too would have invited the IAEA to my buildings under those circumstances.