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originally posted by: ATODASO
"it happened so fast. it seemed like only a few months."
my good buddy recently got back from a trip to mexico. he met a lady, and now they're touring all around north america. she's great, mid-20s, well educated, funny, sweet. we were up last night drinking on the porch, as you do. he was down there (veracruz) for a couple of months, but that was enough. here's what they told me.
*if you're a gov employee, and you don't play ball, the cartels will kill your family. all of them. it happened to a 2nd cousin of hers, as well as several acquaintances. so guess what? the gov, local and federal, is entirely in the cartels' pockets. the cartels set policy and call the shots, absolutely.
*she has a 1 yr old niece who has never left the family home. if you're a woman or a girl, you do not leave the house alone. if you are a person of either sex, you get indoors before 11pm. and you do not DO NOT allow your children outside. EVER. that's because...
*people get kidnapped EVERY DAY in EVERY COMMUNITY.
my buddy and Y____ went out for tacos one day. they're mowing down on some fine tacos when Y____ perks up, looks nervous. "we have to go. NOW." turns out that she overheard one of the other patrons on the phone telling someone about the american who was just begging to get snatched, and could they send a van and backup? mind you, there are two cops in line toting semi-automatic rifles giving zero #s.
they kidnap men for organs and ransom, they kidnap boys for organs and fresh soldiers, they kidnap girls for child prostitution, child porn, and organs. three months ago in Y___'s hometown, a truck was pulled over for speeding. the cop asked to look in the back, the driver agreed. and then blew his brains out right then and there. open the back and there are DOZENS of children and babies, living and dead, missing organs and missing eyes. standard cartel practice. if you live the kid (usually male) alive, you take the eyes out and dump them in the street. good luck finding accurate stats out there, because...
*one of the things you will be asked to do by the cartels if you work in law enforcement is tamper with the kidnapping reports. bury them, alter them, etc. if you are a police officer, you can bust someone for going shirtless in public, but a body can be chucked out the back of a van in the town plaza right in front of you, and you will do nothing.
*they even kidnap dogs. they take them from yards and parks and either ransom them or sell them to the chinese for meat. Y___ took her dog to the park one day, and a woman approached her and tried to take it. Y___ kicked her and ran like hell with the dog in her arms.
*nobody has a job. unless it's cartel related.
*education is a joke.
*back in may, some super draconian legislation was passed that severely restricted mexicans ability to speak out on the internet. she posted a video about it on my buddy's fb wall, and two weeks later, it was gone. not a dead video, but *poof* disappeared off his timeline altogether.
"they want to silence us, so the world doesn't know how it really is here."
make no mistake, you americans have a full on somalia-style failed state boiling just beneath you. if any american companies/agencies are still selling weapons in mexico, they ought to be ashamed. i'm not saying what is going on with the flood of illegals into your country is ok, or that it's being handled well by your gov. but try to understand, these people aren't coming here to steal your jobs or take your tax dollars. they are terrified, and have every reason to be terrified.
originally posted by: coder
Wow, that's eye opening! Unbelievably sad too. The scale of it is difficult to comprehend but certainly sheds some light on why the flood gates have opened.
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
Where were you in Mexico? Along the Rivera Maya?
Leaving the resort can be tricky during certain dates. The military has had to really ramp up to try and keep control of some of the resort locations.
originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
Obviously you were in a safe place. I would bet a place that is not listed on the US current report as being dangerous. They have a very detailed outline of where is safe.
Of course there are safe places where tourists go, but venture inland and you take alot of risks. I would guess you flew in and didnt drive while there.
Tell Harry Devert's family it's all exaggeration. Some areas have 40 kidnappings a day. The number of dead.bodies are made up to you i guess?
originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
You are fighting a lost cause. Don't know why you want to down play reality with so much evidence against you?
Actually Harry Devert was the second well reported American death in Mex this year. Another man was killed only hours after entering.
40 percent of Americans killed abroad are killed in Mexico. 511 americans murdered in 6 years (06 to 12).
There were 757 REPORTED kidnappings recorded between January and June 2013. Some places 40 a day.
Anyone more interested in the reality than Sheople here can visit: here
Also you will notice that site lists accidents, negligence related deaths, and murders. However you will see a high number of balcony deaths. People fall off hotel balcony's in Mexico more than any other country in the world it seems.. generally because only part of them are actually accidents. Popular, easier to explain tactic than blowing someones brains out in their room: here
and get a real state by state run down: HERE
originally posted by: texasyeti
Kill the Cartels. Find out where they are bomb their houses and kill them and confiscate their bank accounts. Allow the citizens to carry firearms openly to defend themselves.