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Furthermore, there is not a single holy day (holiday) that a Christian must observe. It is up to his or her own discretion/guidance of the holy Spirit of Yahweh as to whether he or she will consider a day sacred. Check out Romans chapter 14:
Originally posted by shmick25
Furthermore, there is not a single holy day (holiday) that a Christian must observe. It is up to his or her own discretion/guidance of the holy Spirit of Yahweh as to whether he or she will consider a day sacred. Check out Romans chapter 14:
Interesting. I have never read that verse before. In regards to this specifically, if this was the case, why did Christ when he was on earth observe the Jewish sabbath and the passovers etc. If Christ wanted to make a point of showing the world that any day was appropriate to observe, why did he not do so?
Originally posted by shmick25
So we are about to experience a very merry Christmas again but I have a few questions.
1. No one knows when Christ was born. Why do we celebrate his birth at this time of year.
Originally posted by shmick25
2. If we do celebrate Christmas as the Birth of Christ, why do we incorporate the Christmas tree and father nick (Santa) (pagan figures) as well?
Originally posted by shmick25
From what I know, the decoration of the Christmas tree stems back from druid tradition. How the hell did it end up as Christmas tradition?
Originally posted by shmick25
3. Why share gifts? Where did this come from?
Originally posted by shmick25
Is it because of the story of Christ and the 3 wise men? How can that relate to giving presents to each other?
Originally posted by shmick25
Possibly we should be giving offerings to churches instead?
Originally posted by shmick25
4. Another theory is that Santa clause is actually an Satan clause!
Originally posted by shmick25
Sounds funny but what if it is true?
Originally posted by shmick25
What if Christmas is divided into 2. Some people worship Christ!
Originally posted by shmick25
and the others worship unwittingly each year Satan! Blows ya mind.
Originally posted by shmick25
Tell me if Christmas is some big religious conspiracy!!
Originally posted by saint4God
This is a bastardization that happens with the English language unfortunately. Santa Claus I believe was the Dutch translation. Santa in related languages means Saint. Claus a translation of Nicholas. Satan is from different roots - Hebrew or Greek if I'm not mistaken.
He did. Christ said that "the Sabbath was made for Man. Not Man for the Sabbath". You should also remember that he worked on the Sabbath when this was supposed to be expressly forbidden - in fact there are instances in the Bible where people were executed fo doing this and this was probably one of the charges made at Jesus' trial when he was accused of not obeying Jewish law.
Better to celebrate it than to not celebrate it.
Saint Nicholas did give gifts, was a real person and wore red. Some internet searches can help here.
Pitch the tree, don't care, it's not what Christmas is about anyway. It's nice to look at though and can be decorated Christian.
This is a bastardization that happens with the English language unfortunately. Santa Claus I believe was the Dutch translation. Santa in related languages means Saint. Claus a translation of Nicholas. Satan is from different roots - Hebrew or Greek if I'm not mistaken.
Originally posted by Ischyros
but I don't think he is concerned at this time as to the exact day of the week
Originally posted by Ischyros
I don't think anyone is saying that Santa Claus is actually derived from Satan etmyologically. I just find it interesting that Santa is an anagram for Satan in English. Satan wants to be God and strives to be worshipped as such whenever and wherever he can.
Originally posted by shmick25
I agree. I think that part of the point of this conversation is that �why are we celebrating it at THIS time of year�. (Thanks to some informative posts I now know).
Originally posted by shmick25
So, why isn�t Christmas marketed as a time to give to the poor?
Originally posted by shmick25
Obviously because of big business. This however is the point that is being made.
Originally posted by shmick25
There is another interesting thread on Santa in this forum. Somehow saint nic gained supernatural powers. Interesting...
Originally posted by shmick25
That is what the catholic church does best. Christianizes pagan beliefs. It�s a pity it has been incorporated into mainstream Christian thinking, but I put it down to general ignorance mostly and an attitude of �well who cares anyway!!�
Originally posted by shmick25
The primary theme is Santa, the secondary is Christ. Sounds familiar with the worship of saints in some churches.
Originally posted by shmick25
In short I lay claim to my original statement that has been echoed in these halls. Both Christ and Satan demand worship so it isn�t a surprise that the Christian message of Christmas has been corrupted with pagan influences to confuse the masses from hearing the Christian message.