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Cure For Cancer In Cat Poop?

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posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Lompyt

Howdy,

I may be straying a bit off topic, but please hear me out...

Sometimes, it is not a conspiracy when you read an article about a promising new cure and never hear about it again. Sometimes, it is not the big Pharma corporations shutting down new research. Sometimes, and I'd bet more often, it is the result of preliminary research being sensationalized by scientifically illiterate news reporters. Possible new cure for some cancers (it's not all the same, by the way... you'll never see THE cure for cancer)? Better write an article titled, "The End of Cancer" or some other attention grabbing thing...

Research doesn't always pan out. Scientists hit more dead-ends than you would think. For every cure, there have probably been thousands of potential cures that have failed in research. One light bulb per hundred tries...

Regards,
Hydeman



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Unity_99
They've cured cancer years/decades ago, and I believe what I've read up on that. But I have a list of things I will try should this occur that involves, Baking Soda, number 1. Rick Simpson Cure, number 2. Inner seeds of fruits, number 3. Cabbage, Beets and Raw Juices with a lot of Vitamin D and sunlight.

So, I think the cat feces will not be on the plate, AT ALL, and its outrageous that they have buried the things that work BUT come out with disgusting things to laugh at us in stead. They need long long long long prison sentences, the 85 cartel running the world that these scientists obviously work for. I don't blame the scientists but blame the 85 richest people on earth and all the politicians and Rothschild's/Rockefellers.


I understand the chemistry behind the Baking soda, inner seeds of fruits, cabbage, and beet juice. The vitamin D connection doesn't work well unless there is plenty of sunlite, and I do not know about the Rick Simpson Cureyet, I have heard of it but have not researched it totally.

The seeds of fruit can be very dangerous, but I suppose cancer is dangerous also.


Can you explain the chemistry behind baking soda (and the others you mentioned) as the chemistry (and biochemistry/physiology) I know tells me quite comprehensively that they don't do a thing for cancer.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 02:05 AM
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a reply to: MysterX

I'm with ya. Bring on the neurological - in fact I'm already pretty sure I ain't right anyway. And probably never have been. Since birth. Actually....I've never been able to level my sight with that of the common human herd...



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I'm good with this. I'll worship cats. Most humans are insufferable anyways...



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: Lompyt

"They" are the sensationalist media. If you get your science info from the media, you're going to be disappointed. No grand conspiracy here.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: rickymouse

No, there is not any basis. The idea you can change your body's PH level is without merit. Your body will maintain homeostasis and if it did not altering your PH would kill you.


So you are saying that if a person's body will not maintain homeostasis properly than this will not help? People who have problems may need to keep their bodies regulate homeostasis by watching what they consume. How many medicines are produced that alter homeostasis in the body by one method or another altering chemical imbalances. So you are saying that these medicines don't work?

I didn't realize that you were so against medicines. I suppose there is also no such thing as mineral and vitamin imbalances in the body in your books also.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Unity_99

I eat a lot of potatoes in the winter, this contains a metabolite of Vitamin D. It keeps the SAD away and supplies the hormone without the sun. I get quite a bit of stiff tendons from it though, especially in the back. It does seem to calcify the soft tissue like science says it does. I suppose moderation is the antidote, but I crave potatoes with real butter in the winter. I suppose it is a self medication craving. My daughter quit craving potatoes about a month after starting vitamin D supplementation. She now takes the supplement twice a week. I know someone who couldn't clear the vitamin D out of here system properly from supplementation and she had some complications. Her blood D levels rose very high and the doctors had to give her something to lower it.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 09:48 AM
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Pfffffft.
I never realized it but i have known this for years. When thinking back through my long life i can honestly say that EVERYONE, I MEAN EVERYONE i know that eats cat poop has never gotten cancer. I lie to you not. In fact i cannot remember any of them even getting a cold.
true story
a reply to: theantediluvian



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Unity_99
They've cured cancer years/decades ago, and I believe what I've read up on that. But I have a list of things I will try should this occur that involves, Baking Soda, number 1. Rick Simpson Cure, number 2. Inner seeds of fruits, number 3. Cabbage, Beets and Raw Juices with a lot of Vitamin D and sunlight.

So, I think the cat feces will not be on the plate, AT ALL, and its outrageous that they have buried the things that work BUT come out with disgusting things to laugh at us in stead. They need long long long long prison sentences, the 85 cartel running the world that these scientists obviously work for. I don't blame the scientists but blame the 85 richest people on earth and all the politicians and Rothschild's/Rockefellers.


I understand the chemistry behind the Baking soda, inner seeds of fruits, cabbage, and beet juice. The vitamin D connection doesn't work well unless there is plenty of sunlite, and I do not know about the Rick Simpson Cureyet, I have heard of it but have not researched it totally.

The seeds of fruit can be very dangerous, but I suppose cancer is dangerous also.


Can you explain the chemistry behind baking soda (and the others you mentioned) as the chemistry (and biochemistry/physiology) I know tells me quite comprehensively that they don't do a thing for cancer.
oxygen.
It is always oxygen. At the macro or micro, it is oxygen. The key to baking soda is getting it to the cellular lvl.
Aerobic or anaerobic for wht bug prospers in what environment. Many good bugs needed for proper environment and flora to have a properly functioning immune system.

But learn to run away from any silver bullet cure. The key is a healthy and functioning immune system.
Rick Simpson oil is by far the closest you will ever find to a silver bullet though. You are born with cannabinoids in every organ, in your brain. The cannabinoids found in cannabis fit these like lock and key. Repairs alot of the broken immune system functions.
And vitamin d. D3 is they key for most dis-ease. Best source is sunlight.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Unity_99
They've cured cancer years/decades ago, and I believe what I've read up on that. But I have a list of things I will try should this occur that involves, Baking Soda, number 1. Rick Simpson Cure, number 2. Inner seeds of fruits, number 3. Cabbage, Beets and Raw Juices with a lot of Vitamin D and sunlight.

So, I think the cat feces will not be on the plate, AT ALL, and its outrageous that they have buried the things that work BUT come out with disgusting things to laugh at us in stead. They need long long long long prison sentences, the 85 cartel running the world that these scientists obviously work for. I don't blame the scientists but blame the 85 richest people on earth and all the politicians and Rothschild's/Rockefellers.


I understand the chemistry behind the Baking soda, inner seeds of fruits, cabbage, and beet juice. The vitamin D connection doesn't work well unless there is plenty of sunlite, and I do not know about the Rick Simpson Cureyet, I have heard of it but have not researched it totally.

The seeds of fruit can be very dangerous, but I suppose cancer is dangerous also.


Can you explain the chemistry behind baking soda (and the others you mentioned) as the chemistry (and biochemistry/physiology) I know tells me quite comprehensively that they don't do a thing for cancer.


Bicarbonate is used to neutralize the stomach acid after the stomach. It keeps the acid out of the intestines. If levels of bicarbonate are low, the body has to fight different conditions that arise and this lowers immune response to other things. Also Acetyl Acetate, created with the aid of sodium bicarbonate in the body helps to build blood plasma, it is sometimes given to patients to raise the level of blood in the body. The components need to be consumed to build blood. Proper blood volume helps to carry more of both blood cells. Although proper diet can supply these building blocks better, for those with a compromised diet, baking soda will work to make things work better. So will the chemical, sodium di-acetate in dill chips. So baking soda can help the body work properly, as prevention, the properly working body can fight cancer better.

You have to remember that people who get cancer have a susceptability to it because of a problem with their system. Guiding the system to work correctly is what medicine should address, not trying to cure cancer after it has gotten to a stage where it needs chemo or radiation to kill.

The problem I have with baking soda is I do not make enough stomach acid, so baking soda will do me more harm than good. My low blood volume is hereditary, so I doubt if raising levels of plasma won't work if I can't make enough blood cells to work with the extra plasma. But that is just my personal condition, it has nothing to do with others ability to properly make enough blood cells. Low blood volume is just an inconvenience, my normal heart rate is between one ten and one twenty and my BP is a little higher than normal, but it is not that high. This is normal for me, I have lived with it all my life. I could outwork most people and medicines for it just cause me problems when used long term. My heart beat can go to two twenty without missing a beat as long as the BP doesn't get too high.

Now some people call this a disease, I call it normal. Increasing blood volume makes me anemic, the body has it's own way of balancing this situation. I can't consume too much baking soda or Dill chips. It is not for me. But it can work as a medicine for me if volume drops too much.
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posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: manna2

Your lungs get oxygen to the cellular level, not your stomach.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: manna2

Your lungs get oxygen to the cellular level, not your stomach.
i did not say stomach. And you are partially correct



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: manna2

Oxygen to cells is a function of the lungs, nothing else.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 12:12 AM
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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: manna2

Oxygen to cells is a function of the lungs, nothing else.



www.biomedcentral.com...



Results

We show that metal chelation using TPEN (5muM) selectively induces cell death in HCT116 colon cancer cells without affecting the viability of non-cancerous colon or intestinal cells. Cell death was associated with increased levels of reactive oxygen species (ROS) and was inhibited by antioxidants and by prior chelation of copper. Interestingly, HCT116 cells accumulate copper to 7-folds higher levels than normal colon cells, and the TPEN-copper complex engages in redox cycling to generate hydroxyl radicals. Consistently, TPEN exhibits robust anti-tumor activity in vivo in colon cancer mouse xenografts.

Conclusion

Our data show that TPEN induces cell death by chelating copper to produce TPEN-copper complexes that engage in redox cycling to selectively eliminate colon cancer cells.





posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 03:40 AM
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a reply to: manna2

Read it again.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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Book called Healing Within, it states; There is no comparison in the way one feels after cleansing with the new procedure with oxygen. Some authorities state that, liter per liter; more oxygen is absorbed through colon cleansing than through the lungs. This not only helps to heal the affected tissues in the colon, but also allows the oxygen to pass quickly into the bloodstream and bathe the bodies cells.

Colon cleansing therapy with oxygen has an anti-helmintic action; that is, parasites are removed. The concentration of ozone in the water will determine the 

quote]originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: manna2
Is there oxygen in water? Can it be absorbed through your skin? Through mucous membrane?




Read it again.lol, no you read the results and what ros is. Learn about aerobic bacteria in the colon


www.appliedozone.com...
along the way. This is where nutrients are absorbed into the blood stream



posted on Jul, 24 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Unity_99
They've cured cancer years/decades ago, and I believe what I've read up on that. But I have a list of things I will try should this occur that involves, Baking Soda, number 1. Rick Simpson Cure, number 2. Inner seeds of fruits, number 3. Cabbage, Beets and Raw Juices with a lot of Vitamin D and sunlight.

So, I think the cat feces will not be on the plate, AT ALL, and its outrageous that they have buried the things that work BUT come out with disgusting things to laugh at us in stead. They need long long long long prison sentences, the 85 cartel running the world that these scientists obviously work for. I don't blame the scientists but blame the 85 richest people on earth and all the politicians and Rothschild's/Rockefellers.


I understand the chemistry behind the Baking soda, inner seeds of fruits, cabbage, and beet juice. The vitamin D connection doesn't work well unless there is plenty of sunlite, and I do not know about the Rick Simpson Cureyet, I have heard of it but have not researched it totally.

The seeds of fruit can be very dangerous, but I suppose cancer is dangerous also.


Can you explain the chemistry behind baking soda (and the others you mentioned) as the chemistry (and biochemistry/physiology) I know tells me quite comprehensively that they don't do a thing for cancer.


Bicarbonate is used to neutralize the stomach acid after the stomach. It keeps the acid out of the intestines. If levels of bicarbonate are low, the body has to fight different conditions that arise and this lowers immune response to other things. Also Acetyl Acetate, created with the aid of sodium bicarbonate in the body helps to build blood plasma, it is sometimes given to patients to raise the level of blood in the body. The components need to be consumed to build blood. Proper blood volume helps to carry more of both blood cells. Although proper diet can supply these building blocks better, for those with a compromised diet, baking soda will work to make things work better. So will the chemical, sodium di-acetate in dill chips. So baking soda can help the body work properly, as prevention, the properly working body can fight cancer better.

You have to remember that people who get cancer have a susceptability to it because of a problem with their system. Guiding the system to work correctly is what medicine should address, not trying to cure cancer after it has gotten to a stage where it needs chemo or radiation to kill.

The problem I have with baking soda is I do not make enough stomach acid, so baking soda will do me more harm than good. My low blood volume is hereditary, so I doubt if raising levels of plasma won't work if I can't make enough blood cells to work with the extra plasma. But that is just my personal condition, it has nothing to do with others ability to properly make enough blood cells. Low blood volume is just an inconvenience, my normal heart rate is between one ten and one twenty and my BP is a little higher than normal, but it is not that high. This is normal for me, I have lived with it all my life. I could outwork most people and medicines for it just cause me problems when used long term. My heart beat can go to two twenty without missing a beat as long as the BP doesn't get too high.

Now some people call this a disease, I call it normal. Increasing blood volume makes me anemic, the body has it's own way of balancing this situation. I can't consume too much baking soda or Dill chips. It is not for me. But it can work as a medicine for me if volume drops too much.


So no scientific explanation that I asked for?

Your understanding of a process called homoestasis needs to be worked on. A lot.
Your understanding of the acid/base balance in the body needs to be worked. A lot more.
Your understanding of what causes and what contributes to cancer is spectacularly and dangerously wrong.

Oh, cardiology is my sub-speciality.
The reason you have a fast heart-rate is due to your low blood volume.
Look up cardiac output.
If your heart rate is getting to 220 that would suggest a possible major issue with your heart.
I would suggest you see a cardiologist.

You calculate a person's rough maximum heart rate by subtracting their age from 220.
Since yours goes to 220 it is exceeding your maximum heart rate (I'm assuming you are an adult).
Seriously, get it sorted by someone who knows what they're doing, not someone who pretends to know.



posted on Jul, 24 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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I have been to specialists for this, their treatment of beta blockers did not work. It is not a problem. My uncle had one signal cut to his heart which reduced the rate to about sixty. It worked great, but the slow circulation made the veins and heart brittle after that. He lived less than a year and a half after that.

I can handle hard work with a heart rate over two hundred no problem. it doesn't miss a beat. I have had this all my life and have worked harder than most people.

I can't just get up and start running, it causes problems. So why should I run and jeopardise my health. I can toss cement blocks around all day long. Other than that, I have no problems with my heart. It is not enlarged, it works just fine. What is normal for you is not normal for me, I cannot survive properly with a slower heart rate, when they started trying to lower it I had nothing but problems. The medicines are not good for me.

I know a lot about my heart condition and personal situations, I have researched them more than most doctors. I have experienced what it feels like, they have not. Now, I can talk to specialists on this subject face to face and they are amazed what I know about it, I even showed a specialist of the weird way my heart works and how to deal with it while doing a stress test. It isn't an illness, it is an inconvenience. I might have problems running from a bear so I carry a 357 magnum semi-auto pistol when I am out in the woods. No problem. I had to quit running track when I was a teen because of this, so what. I didn't need to run to support my family or learn about forty professions.

I am not afraid of this condition, as long as you don't eat too many foods that cause your heart rate to increase there isn't a problem. I don't like Habanaros anyway. Let others chew on jalapeno peppers and burn their mouths.

The reason for the low blood volume is what I am interested in. Probably Wilsons or porphyria. My being allergic to all of the epilepsy drugs, them almost killing me and leaving me with a messed up liver and kidneys and messed up cells in my feet, is probably related to a blood building disorder which causes low blood volume.

No problem, I can deal with it, as long as I don't start peeing out pinkish purple pee again I will be all right. TLE is just an inconvenience. The problem is that trying to eat foods that control it also causes the underlying cause of my low blood volume to become troublesome.

I have found that the worse thing for my heart beat is stress, so I try not to let anything bother me. Stress causes the release of nitrogen compounds that expand the blood vessels and then speeds the heart rate, but this causes all sorts of problems with AFIB...worse than running does. So worrying about my heart is not an option. Worrying about the cost of a copayment is not good. Worrying about the pills they may give me messing up my body because of the blood problem is not worth it.

I'm fine, my relatives lived into their eighties with this condition.



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: Pardon?

I have been to specialists for this, their treatment of beta blockers did not work. It is not a problem. My uncle had one signal cut to his heart which reduced the rate to about sixty. It worked great, but the slow circulation made the veins and heart brittle after that. He lived less than a year and a half after that.

I can handle hard work with a heart rate over two hundred no problem. it doesn't miss a beat. I have had this all my life and have worked harder than most people.

I can't just get up and start running, it causes problems. So why should I run and jeopardise my health. I can toss cement blocks around all day long. Other than that, I have no problems with my heart. It is not enlarged, it works just fine. What is normal for you is not normal for me, I cannot survive properly with a slower heart rate, when they started trying to lower it I had nothing but problems. The medicines are not good for me.

I know a lot about my heart condition and personal situations, I have researched them more than most doctors. I have experienced what it feels like, they have not. Now, I can talk to specialists on this subject face to face and they are amazed what I know about it, I even showed a specialist of the weird way my heart works and how to deal with it while doing a stress test. It isn't an illness, it is an inconvenience. I might have problems running from a bear so I carry a 357 magnum semi-auto pistol when I am out in the woods. No problem. I had to quit running track when I was a teen because of this, so what. I didn't need to run to support my family or learn about forty professions.

I am not afraid of this condition, as long as you don't eat too many foods that cause your heart rate to increase there isn't a problem. I don't like Habanaros anyway. Let others chew on jalapeno peppers and burn their mouths.

The reason for the low blood volume is what I am interested in. Probably Wilsons or porphyria. My being allergic to all of the epilepsy drugs, them almost killing me and leaving me with a messed up liver and kidneys and messed up cells in my feet, is probably related to a blood building disorder which causes low blood volume.

No problem, I can deal with it, as long as I don't start peeing out pinkish purple pee again I will be all right. TLE is just an inconvenience. The problem is that trying to eat foods that control it also causes the underlying cause of my low blood volume to become troublesome.

I have found that the worse thing for my heart beat is stress, so I try not to let anything bother me. Stress causes the release of nitrogen compounds that expand the blood vessels and then speeds the heart rate, but this causes all sorts of problems with AFIB...worse than running does. So worrying about my heart is not an option. Worrying about the cost of a copayment is not good. Worrying about the pills they may give me messing up my body because of the blood problem is not worth it.

I'm fine, my relatives lived into their eighties with this condition.



If the cause of your tachycardia is your hypovolaemia then treating it with beta-blockers won't work.
The hypovolaemia needs to be addressed then the tachycardia will subside.

If the cause of your tachy is AFib which you alluded to, simply thinking it will look after itself by avoiding stress or certain foods is nonsensical.
You won't. Sorry.
There is a saying, "AF begets AF" which means that the more you have it, the more you will have it.
AF is the biggest cause of cerebral and pulmonary emboli in the world.
A huge majority of people who have strokes have underlying AF.

If you don't have a stroke you're in line for valvular problems and/or heart failure.
I will guarantee that as that's what ALWAYS happens with untreated AF.

It's entirely up to you though, don't have treatment and suffer with one or more of the above or do have treatment and don't.
If it's caught relatively early it can be cured (yes, cured) by various ablation techniques (which DON'T make your veins and heart brittle(?), I really don't know where you've got that one from, another one of your made-up stories perhaps?).

Do nothing and it will worsen.
Do something which is proven to help and it probably won't.

Your call.

Oh and whilst your understanding of homeostasis is non-existent you're going to have major problems trying to self-"medicate" by what you're doing.



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 09:09 AM
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I got that information about brittle bloodvessels from the heart surgeon who operated on my uncle, he said my uncles veins and arteries were like those of a teenager the last time he had checked him a couple of years ago. He is the one who sent him for the operation to cut the signal, a sort of new procedure. When My uncle start having problems he went and saw this doctor again, the doctor is a very good surgeon. He did a balloon and the artery or vein blew apart.

The doctor was kind of upset when he talked to me. Maybe he felt a little guilty because he recommended the surgery a few years earlier. I like the doctor who did the surgery. He is a very nice guy and he could not have known what was going to happen.

I have survived many events of AFIB during my life. Lifestyle and diet can control them. I have learned to live with this inconvenience over the years, studying what sets it off. I was diagnosed with tachychardia when I was eighteen years old. The doctor worked with my dad and uncles conditions and told me some stuff about it. I have read every article I came across over the last forty years on this subject. I did not realize that the hypovolemia I knew about thirty years ago was related to the tachychardia until about five years ago though.

When I had a tooth extraction thirty five years ago, a blood vessel burst after I left the dentist. I bled about a pint out. I had to go to the ER to get it fixed, but I slept for a day and a half. When they finally could wake me up, It was like nothing happened, I felt great. My body must make new blood cells while I sleep better than when I am awake. Twenty some years ago I donated blood and the same thing happened two times. Jerry, the guy who I knew who took the blood told me I do not make blood properly and to never let anyone talk me into giving blood ever. He told me what I had, but I wasn't paying attention to the name, I think the word he used was hypovolemia though. That is not a disease, it is the result of a reduction in the production of cells from what I have read. A disruption that creates a necessity to have less plasma so the body does not get anemic. Very rarely am I anemic, but my volume does go low. Your body knows how to correct a problem, the blood tests do not always work for this condition because they measure concentrations not volume.

I have known some pretty good doctors in my life, they are very informative sometimes. The young ones are usually gun ho like a new cop out of a police academy...the rookie. All professions have a rookie who tries to proove they know more than they do. When you talk to a seasoned doctor they can tell you lots. Some of them never grow up though, they think their knowledge is better than others and they are always correct. I have met some young doctors who are good though, I guess it is a personality trait that determines their excellence.

It helps when you were going to school to become a surgeon when you were young, you get to know doctors and understand what they say. I even knew a guy on the board of the AMA, he was a real nice guy, he liked to hunt birds with his parker shotgun and thousand dollar dog back in the seventies. How he got that job I do not know, he owned an oil company.
Strange that I knew/know half a dozen people who owned pretty good size businesses in the oil distribution industry. Maybe because I liked this guy back then it steered me to meet others like him.




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