J. White calculates why Apollo craft could not have survived passage through the VABs

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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 05:53 AM
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Jarrah White recently uploaded a new video detailing why
the Apollo spacecraft could not protect astronauts if they
would fly through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.


www.youtube.com...

Im very curious if anybody here wants to challenge his math.




posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: FoosM

have you checked his numbers??


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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:08 AM
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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:18 AM
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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: FoosM

That's a big challenge from the guy who gave us all this to laugh at.



You couldn't even understand the shadows created on the Moon pictures.

Now we have to suffer that Aussie clown in HD were just lucky his voice is not in HD as well



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: pennydrops




BTW, I have no doubt they went to the moon.


Ditto.

But just not in the 1000 year old technology they pretended to use.

I don't know about JW's numbers, but math doesn't lie and it's accuracy is rarely reliant on or changeable by bias, nationality, elitism or conjecture, belief or disbelief..it is either correct or it isn't.

Anyone good at this kind of math without an axe to grind?



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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Why bother!

It is an exercise in utter futility.

They went, they landed, they launched, they came home, they lived / are living long lives.

Therefore the math is crap.

So again I ask, why bother.

P



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:26 AM
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I can't even find my own belt. I don't know enough about Van Allen's to make much of an intelligent response.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

Because Human beings, especially those in positions of power with political points to prove and win, virtually continuously lie their arses off...i suppose that in itself is a good enough reason to bother.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
Why bother!

It is an exercise in utter futility.

They went, they landed, they launched, they came home, they lived / are living long lives.

Therefore the math is crap.

So again I ask, why bother.

P


SOme of us might find it interesting. Ny bother discussing anything?

Why are people so grumpy today?


HUGS ALL ROUND...COME ON GUYS....SMILE.........THIS IS ATS....LETS DISCUSS!!!!



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: skunkape23
I can't even find my own belt. I don't know enough about Van Allen's to make much of an intelligent response.


Yeah some humour.!!!

Nice one, people are a bit grumpy on here today.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
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Who the hell do you think you are?
This is ATS, where all theories are welcome and entertained.
Skepticism is also obviously welcome, but no need to be so damn rude to the OP. They made no claims, merely presented something they thought was interesting and asked for feedback.


--- On Topic ---

Thanks for the video, I'll be sure to write back as soon as I'm able to finish it.
Though I feel that we have absolutely been the moon, I also think that there are some strange factors involving the entire operation.
Maybe this video has some gold nuggets inside, maybe not- I'll be sure to respond with further thoughts later.
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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 06:56 AM
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Doesn't this explain why it was possible?

www.clavius.org...

They weren't flying through a nuke, they were flying through a radiation field, yep there was some exposure, but not a lethal dose by a long shot.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: ThinkingCap
They made no claims, merely presented something they thought was interesting and asked for feedback.


he kinda did..

the title is a claim..

the strangest thing i find, is considering this data has been available for decades.. scientists and engineers need VAB data to be sure their satellites wont fail within a few months of launching.. it isnt a cheap venture..

and yet Jarrah has made his big reveal, before any of the other professional scientists/engineers around the world in over 40 years..

is he smarter than them all?? or is this a huge conspiracy involving hundreds and thousands of scientists/engineers around the world of more than one generation??

personally i believe his numbers are wrong and im not some VAB expert but step 5 smells funky.
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posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: choos

A thread title is absolutely no excuse to use rudeness as an alternative for facts. I'm sick of seeing this kind of behavior on these forums, it discourages healthy discussion.

I'm only half way through his video, but from what I am reading about your response- your are suggesting that due to the fact that NASA has not come to his calculations, that his calculations are wrong. I'd suggest to you that the entire focal point of alternative viewpoints is that they are alternative in essence.

Clearly the precedent is that NASA has been directed to hide features of the moon landing from the public, so their calculations are also going to be under suspect.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: ThinkingCap

it would be alternative and maybe more accurate if the data he based it on was new..

VAB data has been around for decades, scientists and engineers use it to build their satellites.. they cant all be in on the moon landing hoax?? every single scientist and engineer in the world since the VAB were discovered to date are all in the moon landing hoax is a bit of a far-fetched idea. not just american scientists and engineers but the world.

also im not basing my belief his calculations are wrong because of this alone.. yes i started with this bias position but there is an error in step 5 at least.. but im not a VAB specialist so there could be more errors that i dont know about.



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: choos

Engineers and scientists have been working with old data for their satellites.
They have complained to NASA to update the VAB charts. That was supposed to have
happen a few years ago, I doubt this is the case.

Engineers and Scientists also dont have to worry about sending lifeforms through
the belts.

Big question is, where is NASA's calculations for Apollo's traversal through the VABs?



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: HauntWok

And how do you know this?
Where is NASA's proof that Apollo could traverse the belts without problems
to the astronauts?

Please dont tell me you would want to risk such a mission based on this math:

spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov...



posted on Jul, 21 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: FoosM
a reply to: choos

Engineers and scientists have been working with old data for their satellites.
They have complained to NASA to update the VAB charts. That was supposed to have
happen a few years ago, I doubt this is the case.

Engineers and Scientists also dont have to worry about sending lifeforms through
the belts.

Big question is, where is NASA's calculations for Apollo's traversal through the VABs?



update the charts?? so you mean to date all satellites are fake?? Jarrah makes it seem impossible to shield against the VAB radiation? so if we take what he says of 60,000-4,000,000 rads per hour i guess satellites will just fail after a few days

also you didnt answer, have you checked the numbers yourself before you posted this video?





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