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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
If we can review the communications before the flight went down we would know for certain whether the flight had any escorts. It would also make clear with proof if it was a surface to air or air to air missile.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ken10
Because their motives are pure, right? That's why the bodies were removed at gunpoint, and some were looted.
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: clay2 baraka
Installing tin hat as I type, but this video could have been produced anywhere here in the US, and several other countries I suspect.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sosobad
Why lie about it though. It won't show anything but what happened on the plane so there's no reason to lie about finding them.
originally posted by: Moresby
I see an unidentified person in an unidentified place holding something orange.
The YouTube channel featuring this video posted its first video the day before the crash. And it seems like all (or at least most) of the videos since then have been about the crash.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Moresby
And about the only thing rescue orange on a plane is the recorder.
originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
The black boxes AND the BUK missile system have all been sent into Russia, and out of the hands of the international investigators. Damning evidence is now all but certainly being tampered with.
Three Buk missile systems have made their way from eastern Ukraine across the border into Russia, Ukrainian officials said Saturday, including one lacking the missile they believe brought down a Malaysia Airlines jet the day before.
- Expert believes that MH17 was downed by a missile fired from rebel-held Torez in eastern Ukraine
- Downing Street supports claims the missile was launched from Torez by 'pro-Russian separatists'
- BUK launcher has been pictured rumbling into the town just two hours before the crash
- Ukraine’s security agency, the SBU, has released recordings of intercepted phone calls
- Claim they prove Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a group of Russian-backed Cossack militants
- Neither recording - which allegedly includes a Russian military intelligence officer - could be independently verified
- Laughing rebels filmed the plane as it crashed, gleefully bragging 'that was a blast – look at the smoke!'
- Hillary Clinton said that there 'should be outrage in European capitals' over the downing of the airliner
- Expert claims that pilot of MH17 'felt uncomfortable' about his route over Ukraine but diverted to hostile airspace
- Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported the crash at 16.13 Moscow time - 'several minutes before the crash'
U.S. officials telling CNN they believe a Buk missile system, a surface-to-air weapon, was smuggled into Ukraine prior to Flight 17 being shot down.
Those officials say they believe it was moved back to Russia after the attack. The implication is that Russia is trying to tamper with evidence.
While the blame game continues over who launched the ground-to-air missile that took down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, killing 298 people on Thursday, video has been uploaded to YouTube purportedly showing a Buk SAM launcher being moved by truck towards the Russian border.
Guess who just confessed?
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: demus
Again, because their motives are as pure as the driven snow, right? Why not turn it over to investigators then. They could have secured them and let investigators into the area and turned then over. Instead they're now reported as missing.
Ukrainian rebels said they are in possession of the flight recorders from the Malaysian Air jet that crashed in a rural district of the country as international reconnaissance crews struggled to gain access to the site.
Self-proclaimed Premier Alexander Borodai of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic said he believes his forces retrieved the devices and have stored them in the embattled region’s capital city, from where they will be handed over to experts. Vitaliy Nayda, the spokesman for the Ukrainian state security services, acknowledged on state TV that the rebels have them.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: demus
Again, because their motives are as pure as the driven snow, right? Why not turn it over to investigators then. They could have secured them and let investigators into the area and turned then over. Instead they're now reported as missing.