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Video found of MH17 black box, rebels caught in a lie.

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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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Here is a video of the recovery of one of the flight recorders from MH17. The Russians previously admitted to finding both. Now they claim that both recorders are missing.


There are reports that these "nonexistent" flight recorders made their way to Moscow.

Why lie, what is there to hide?..




posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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If this indeed turns out to be true, it would seem the Russian's didn't like what they heard on the flight recorder.
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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: clay2 baraka


Here is a video of the recovery of one of the flight recorders from MH17. The Russians previously admitted to finding both. Now they claim that both recorders are missing.


There are reports that these "nonexistent" flight recorders made their way to Moscow.

Why lie, what is there to hide?..


Not arguing with the OP in any way but the flight recorder isn't gonna show who fired on the plane.
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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:48 AM
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Not arguing with the OP any way but the flight recorder isn't gonna show who fired on the plane.


No it won't, but it could reveal some key information in regards to communication between the cockpit and control tower.
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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: sosobad

Why lie about it though. It won't show anything but what happened on the plane so there's no reason to lie about finding them.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Nucleardoom
No it won't, but it could reveal some key information in regards to communication between the cockpit and control tower. a reply to: sosobad



What key information? I heard (dunno if it's true) that 2 jets where shadowing the plane 3 minutes before the attack.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sosobad

Why lie about it though. It won't show anything but what happened on the plane so there's no reason to lie about finding them.


I know, I ain't arguing about that. If they are lying they are lying, not gonna defend them, just saying that it won't show who done it.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: sosobad

The only claim of that I've heard is full of it. They also claim they were ordered to fly through Ukrainian airspace when the filed fight plan showed they were going to all along.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sosobad

The only claim of that I've heard is full of it. They also claim they were ordered to fly through Ukrainian airspace when the filed fight plan showed they were going to all along.


Yeah just after searching about it there myself, seems like a pile of #. Only mentioned it because I think I seen it on a thread here. Didn't hear about the second claim you said though.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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What key information? I heard (dunno if it's true) that 2 jets where shadowing the plane 3 minutes before the attack.


I heard the same things about the escort jets as well, but the flight recorder (not the data recorder) could at least corroborate what the Italian air traffic controller had posted before mysteriously disappearing.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom

He was allegedly Spanish, and full of crap.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Nucleardoom



What key information? I heard (dunno if it's true) that 2 jets where shadowing the plane 3 minutes before the attack.


I heard the same things about the escort jets as well, but the flight recorder (not the data recorder) could at least corroborate what the Italian air traffic controller had posted before mysteriously disappearing.



True and I hope that they do find it, whoever done this has to be held accountable for slaughter of those innocent people.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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This all could be because the separatists didn't want Kiev to get the recorders for fear of tampering.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:10 AM
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If we can review the communications before the flight went down we would know for certain whether the flight had any escorts. It would also make clear with proof if it was a surface to air or air to air missile.
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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: ken10

Because their motives are pure, right? That's why the bodies were removed at gunpoint, and some were looted.
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posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: clay2 baraka

Installing tin hat as I type, but this video could have been produced anywhere here in the US, and several other countries I suspect.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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He was allegedly Spanish, and full of crap.


Well since he's full of schmit this makes the cockpit recordings even more intriguing. Many questions could be answered from the recorder. Like what were the two jets doing there, were they actually escorting or something more?




True and I hope that they do find it, whoever done this has to be held accountable for slaughter of those innocent people.


It's really sick to see someone mass murder close to 300 people, and all that it will amount to is an "I'm sorry" from whoever is responsible along with a check for the victims families. Not the first time and won't be the last.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom

The two fighters claim, as far as I've seen originated with him. Which makes it at best something to be taken with a huge grain of salt.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Nucleardoom



What key information? I heard (dunno if it's true) that 2 jets where shadowing the plane 3 minutes before the attack.


I heard the same things about the escort jets as well, but the flight recorder (not the data recorder) could at least corroborate what the Italian air traffic controller had posted before mysteriously disappearing.



True and I hope that they do find it, whoever done this has to be held accountable for slaughter of those innocent people.


we already know who is to blame. the controllers who failed to shut down a dangerous flight path, and the airline who chose to gamble with civilian lives by flying over a war zone. other than that unless it can be proven that one side or the other shot it down knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt this was a civilian airliner and THEN shot it down, then on their part it is just a tragic accident. unfortunately no war is clean, things like this can easily happen, which is why the airspace should have been shut down as a precaution.



posted on Jul, 20 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom




It's really sick to see someone mass murder close to 300 people, and all that it will amount to is an "I'm sorry" from whoever is responsible along with a check for the victims families. Not the first time and won't be the last.



Sadly it's the nature of the sick world we live in, we aren't that far gone from the apes yet.

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