originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Mianeye
So you think that overall the anthropogenic forcing of such projects don't exacerbate the migratory problems that we have been observing on birds, fish, and mammals like dolphins and whales? Plus the negative effects that anthropogenic electromagnetic disturbances have on the eating, and mating habits that all those animals and insects do with the help of their magnetoreception/electroreception abilities?
While I do know that the fact that we exist and are using technology will affect in some ways, and no matter what we do, many animals and insects. These anthropogenic electromagnetic disturbances which will continue to increase can have a much larger impact than all the anthropogenic disasters we have seen so far, such as oil spills.
Wind farms have to be built in rural areas because of the space needed
originally posted by: Kali74
Do you see the logic failure there? If they both do the same thing but one has a less toxic factor shouldn't we be seeking to SWITCH to the less toxic one? Not to mention the added benefit of less fracking, less mountaintop removal, less coal soot, less pipeline leaks and ruptures...
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
I'll try this one more time... If wind farms produce as much em and 'noise' 'hum' as traditional power plants do why do you advocate against the one that doesn't require coal and the one that can reduce dependence on oil and nuclear?
Wind turbine infrasound screws up ovulation (Denmark)
Mark Duchamp, Chairman, World Council for Nature (7/10/14)
The Danish press reports the case of a garden centre (nursery) going out of business because of nearby wind turbines. Headaches are frequent among employees, and female workers complain of unusual bleeding and problems with their menstrual cycles. They are worried that more serious illnesses may follow. Five have recently resigned. The owner is now closing his business for fear of being held liable should a child be born with deformities, as happened to numerous mink puppies at a fur farm near wind turbines in Jutland.1
He is discussing with his lawyer whether to sue Vattenfal, the company that owns the wind turbines, or the Municipality of Holbaek, which approved their installation 400-700 metres from his nursery. He expects to go to court and seek damages of several million krones.
“Himself a neighbour to 127-metre high wind turbines since their installation three years ago, Boye Jensen has long been convinced that low frequency noise emitted by the turbines makes people ill, as they do animals.”2 Then, recently, he heard the tragic news from Kaj Bank Olesen’s mink farms.1 This, along with the resignation of several of his employees for health reasons, made him realise his business had become untenable because of the wind turbines. “The nursery owner made this hard decision after a mink breeder in Jutland was able to establish a causal link between the loss of a third of his mink puppies, deformed or stillborn, and several giant wind turbines erected nearby.”2
The World Council for Nature (WCFN) is calling attention to the fact that, as occurred for tobacco, asbestos, thalidomide, etc., governments are siding with private financial interests in ignoring or denying the existence of obvious health problems linked to wind turbines. As is the case for the millions of birds and bats killed yearly by the turbines’ blades, mendacious studies are published by unscrupulous consultants, and by professionals and universities happy to oblige their benefactors. Hypocrisy is rampant, species are fast disappearing from our skies, and thousands of windfarm neighbours are being submitted to torture. The word “torture” is not an exaggeration: sleep deprivation is indeed a recognised form of torture.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Let use a little common sense here. The positives aspects of wind generators far outweigh the negative factors. Some of the stuff that you are claiming about the LF noise from wind gens has little actual scientific basis. One lone PHD means nothing, and most of your claims have little if any actual scientific basis. Let's not forget that cell phone towers transmit RF, wind turbines do NOT.
The bottom line is producing electricity via wind turbines is a much better alternative to burning fossil fuels.
Wind farm noise does harm sleep and health, say scientists
Wind farm noise causes “clear and significant” damage to people’s sleep and mental health, according to the first full peer-reviewed scientific study of the problem.
By Andrew Gilligan
9:00PM GMT 03 Nov 2012
American and British researchers compared two groups of residents in the US state of Maine. One group lived within a mile of a wind farm and the second group did not.
Both sets of people were demographically and socially similar, but the researchers found major differences in the quality of sleep the two groups enjoyed.
The findings provide the clearest evidence yet to support long-standing complaints from people living near turbines that the sound from their rotating blades disrupts sleep patterns and causes stress-related conditions.
“Participants living near industrial wind turbines had worse sleep, as evidenced by significantly greater mean PSQI and ESS scores,” the researchers, Michael Nissenbaum, Jeffery Aramini and Chris Hanning, found.
“There were clear and significant dose-response relationships, with the effect diminishing with increasing log-distance from turbines.”
The researchers also tracked respondents’ “mental component scores” and found a “significant” link – probably caused by poor-quality sleep – between wind turbines and poorer mental health.
More than a quarter of participants in the group living near the turbines said they had been medically diagnosed with depression or anxiety since the wind farm started. None of the participants in the group further away reported such problems.
Are wind farms a health risk? US scientist identifies 'wind turbine syndrome'
Noise and vibration coming from large turbines are behind an increase in heart disease, migraine, panic attacks and other health problems, according to research by an American doctor .
By Margareta Pagano
Sunday 02 August 2009
Living too close to wind turbines can cause heart disease, tinnitus, vertigo, panic attacks, migraines and sleep deprivation, according to groundbreaking research to be published later this year by an American doctor.
Dr Nina Pierpont, a leading New York paediatrician, has been studying the symptoms displayed by people living near wind turbines in the US, the UK, Italy, Ireland and Canada for more than five years. Her findings have led her to confirm what she has identified as a new health risk, wind turbine syndrome (WTS). This is the disruption or abnormal stimulation of the inner ear's vestibular system by turbine infrasound and low-frequency noise, the most distinctive feature of which is a group of symptoms which she calls visceral vibratory vestibular disturbance, or VVVD. They cause problems ranging from internal pulsation, quivering, nervousness, fear, a compulsion to flee, chest tightness and tachycardia – increased heart rate. Turbine noise can also trigger nightmares and other disorders in children as well as harm cognitive development in the young, she claims. However, Dr Pierpont also makes it clear that not all people living close to turbines are susceptible.