Originally posted by COWlan
America intervenes example:
Taiwan. (Chinese business)
Jews and Palestinian (its holy war, guys)
Yugoslavia
etc etc

The Palestinian intifada isn't holy war at all, it's nationalism.

Taiwan isn't Chinese business, it's Taiwanese business.

The US didn't intervene in Yugoslavia. The UN intervened in Bosnia-Herzogovina and NATO intervened in Kosovo.

(I can't edit but I should make a clarification. The current administration clearly had nothing to do with Chile '73 but it shows the trend of US interference. They backed the coup in Cambodia that led directly to the Khmer Rouge, they backed Pinochet, they backed the Contras...Why is it that the US backs dictators who overthrow democratically-elected governments?)

Mybe because they gain from it?

Yeah, the U.S. gov't has done some crappy things, but I still prefer the U.S. as the main power, not the Soviet Union or Britain or any of them. As long as the U.S. gov't keeps with the main principles of the U.S. in the long run, most of the world will be fine; corruption is found in all governments. If the U.S. government tries to make the U.S. into a global dictator, then to me, this country won't be the beloved United States anymore as I know it today.

..tries to make???

i think it already succeeded beyond wildest imagination.

Our Nukes Good, Allies Nukes
Pretty Good, Others Very Bad
By Norman Solomon
Creators Syndicate
12-3-4


Top officials in Washington are now promoting jitters about Iran's nuclear activities, while media outlets amplify the message. A confrontation with Tehran is on the second-term Bush agenda. So, we're encouraged to obliquely think about the unthinkable.

But no one can get very far trying to comprehend the enormity of nuclear weapons. They've shadowed human consciousness for six decades. From the outset, deception has been key.

Lies from the White House have been part of the nuclear rationalizing process ever since August1945 . President Harry Truman spoke to the American public three days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. Calling the civilian-filled Japanese city a "military base," Truman said: "The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians."

Actually, US planners had sought a large urban area for the nuclear cross hairs because - as Manhattan Project Director Gen. Leslie Groves later acknowledged - it was "desirable that the first target be of such size that the damage would be confined within it, so that we could more definitely determine the power of the bomb." Thirty-five years later, when I looked at the US Energy Department's official roster of "Announced United States Nuclear Tests," the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were on the list.

We're now six decades into the Nuclear Age. And we're farther than ever, it seems, from a momentously difficult truth that Albert Einstein uttered during its first years, when the US government still held a monopoly on the split atom.

"This basic power of the universe cannot be fitted into the outmoded concept of narrow nationalisms," he wrote. "For there is no secret and there is no defense; there is no possibility of control except through the aroused understanding and insistence of the peoples of the world."

Today, no phrase could better describe US foreign policies - or American media coverage - than "narrow nationalisms." The officials keep putting on a proudly jingoistic show, and journalists report it without fundamental challenge.

So, any whiff of sanity is conspicuous. Just before Thanksgiving, when the House and Senate voted to cut funding of research for a new line of tactical nuclear weapons including "bunker buster" warheads, the decision was reported as the most significant victory for arms-control advocates since the early1990 s. That's because the nuclear weapons industry has been running amok for so long.

While Uncle Sam continues to maintain a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying life on Earth, the American finger-wagging at Iran is something righteous to behold.

Current alarms, wailing about an alleged Iranian program to develop nuclear weapons, are being set off by the same Bush administration officials who declared that an invasion of Iraq was imperative because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

As we now know, he didn't. But that hasn't stopped the Bush team from launching the same kind of media campaign against Iran - based on unverified claims by Iranian exiles with a track record of inaccuracy and a clear motive to pull Washington into military action. Sound familiar?

We ought to be able to recognize what's wrong with US officials who lecture Iran about the evils of nuclear-arms proliferation while winking at Israel's arsenal, estimated to include 200 nuclear weapons.

When Einstein called for "the aroused understanding and insistence of the peoples of the world," he was describing a need that news media ought to help fill. But instead, mostly we get the official stories: Dumbed-down, simplistic, and - yes - narrowly nationalistic. The themes are those of Washington's powerful: Our nukes good, our allies' nukes pretty good, unauthorized nukes very bad.

That sort of propaganda drumbeat won't be convincing to people who doubt that a Christian Bomb is good and a Jewish Bomb is good but an Islamic Bomb is bad. You don't have to be an Einstein to understand that people are rarely persuaded by hypocritical messages along the lines of "Do as we say, not as we do."