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Veterans “Welcome” Obama to Delaware With Their Backs to Him

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posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: grandmakdw

Hauntwok's comments were made as a tongue-in-cheek, elbow-jab style attempt to point out the hypocrisy of certain groups of people that bash those that collect government assistance or subsidies, socialism, etc.

I cannot speak for him/her, but I'm confident that they do not really feel that way.


Are you sure about that?


originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: Wanderer777

Did you volunteer?

Ok, then what's the problem? Go get your gi Bill, go to college, get an education.

Have i spent a year away from my family? I'm 38, been on my own since i was 17, got a job, finished high school, git married, divorced and now i have sole custody of my son. I don't get crap from the government, and because I'm a man in Florida the state refuses to go after his mom for child support.

Yeah you got it so rough.


Doesn't sound like he was joking to me.




posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: buddah6

originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: bbracken677


1) you admit there have been cases of voter registration fraud. I would ask: To what end? Why register fraudulently if not to vote fraudulently?


The people that perpetrated registration fraud did so because they were being paid per person they registered. The people did not exist at all, and therefore could not show up to vote.

2. You don't like the ny times, got it, literally thousands of links debunking the voter fraud myth.

3. Ya, specific instances, because it's that low.

4. See the gun debate. Why make new laws? Enforce the already existing laws. Isn't that the go to retort?



In the last election cycle here in Ohio, a state that was needed by Obama to remain in office, voter fraud was rampant. Obama won my county by 1% in a county that has been republican for at least 40 years. Two people were indicted and were found guilty . One person was charged with 17 counts of voter fraud for voting for dead relatives and falsifying absentee ballots. She was only charged with 17 counts that could be proven but was suspected in hundreds. The significant part of this prosecution was she was an elections official in our county. She was sentenced to 5 years in jail to only serve 5 months. Upon her release she was greeted by Al Sharpton and celebrated their victory.

The other person found guilty was an 80 year old Catholic nunn who also voted absentee for the dead or infirmed. She was not incarcerated due to her age but was placed on probation. The number of fraudulent ballots she cast was not published.

In the Akron/Canton area, more people voted democrat than all register voters in the county IIRC. It was claimed that it was an "over-vote" whatever that is.

In Cleveland, people were paid to register to vote and people paid for registering new voters. If all of these new voters voted absentee would they have been discovered?

In the 2012 election cycle, Ohio was certainly a target for voter fraud but was it enough to change the election with Obama winning by just a few percent? Who knows but on it's face, it looks and smells fishy?

Indiana had several fraud convictions as well but I can't remember the 60 Mintues piece to remember the outcome.




All real cases, yet he claims voter fraud is a "myth"! My ex lives in Ohio, and his family was informed that his dead mother "voted" for Obama. But, hey, he can post three links that claim it's all "republican lies", so it isn't real, right? *smacks head*

There were cases outside of Ohio as well, that were proven.

One reason these vets don't show respect - when the person is in office through fraud, you can't respect t hat and retain any honor.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: Sremmos80

Also isn't a requirement in the military to respect, not like or agree with, but respect those of higher rank?
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There is no such requirement.

Following of lawful orders/commands is required.

Public criticism while in uniform or on official business is not allowed.


why does it sound like you can't wait to have a republican president back in office so he can send you off to more wars, cut VA funding, and cut help to military families. I guess that is what true patriotism is.


You mean the things Obama is doing NOW??? Do you have any idea how many troops are still being deployed?? I do. Benefits cut, no real pay raises since he took office, and I can't even get needed meds I was getting before, because of him. Get a clue.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes


(Reuters) - U.S. Senate Republicans blocked legislation on Thursday that would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for veterans, saying the $24 billion bill would bust the budget.

Even though the legislation cleared a procedural vote on Tuesday by a 99-0 vote, the measure quickly got bogged down in partisan fighting.

Supporters said the measure would have brought the most significant changes in decades to U.S. veterans' programs. For example, it called for 27 new medical facilities to help a healthcare system that is strained by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

With Democrats pressing for passage this week, Senate Republicans, backed by their leader, Mitch McConnell, attempted to attach controversial legislation calling for possible new sanctions on Iran that President Barack Obama opposes.

www.reuters.com...

Lets blame Obama for stuff he is actually responsible for.



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes


(Reuters) - U.S. Senate Republicans blocked legislation on Thursday that would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for veterans, saying the $24 billion bill would bust the budget.

Even though the legislation cleared a procedural vote on Tuesday by a 99-0 vote, the measure quickly got bogged down in partisan fighting.

Supporters said the measure would have brought the most significant changes in decades to U.S. veterans' programs. For example, it called for 27 new medical facilities to help a healthcare system that is strained by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

With Democrats pressing for passage this week, Senate Republicans, backed by their leader, Mitch McConnell, attempted to attach controversial legislation calling for possible new sanctions on Iran that President Barack Obama opposes.

www.reuters.com...

Lets blame Obama for stuff he is actually responsible for.


How much pork was in the bill? That's typically why they are not passed. How much was set to be paid to various appointees?



posted on Jul, 22 2014 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

How much pork was in the bill? That's typically why they are not passed. How much was set to be paid to various appointees?

No pork involved they wanted him to slap Iran with more sanctions even after they agreed to scrap their nuke program and allow for inspectors..and with that we should say.. THANKS OBAMA.!!
In anycase please klik the link for the full article.

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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

1. I was joking till a bunch of crybaby vets decided to wet themselves in this thread. From what it read like some of them are gonna file for cases of ptsd after this thread.

I thought vets were supposed to be tough. Most of these guys wouldn't last a day in my shoes.

2. I didn't say voter fraud never occurred at all, i proved it was not as prevalent as the right thinks it is.

3. Are you STILL on that birther crap?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: HauntWok


I thought vets were supposed to be tough. Most of these guys wouldn't last a day in my shoes.


Yeah, because re-posting talking points from Progressive websites is SOOOO hard.

Call me when you have done anything close to what some vets do for 9-12 month deployments.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: HauntWok

Regarding the voter fraud comment, which is what I responded to: Your claim was that voter fraud was a myth. That is pretty clear in it's meaning.

There is every indication that JFK won his election for president due to the fraud exercised in Chicago on his behalf. In this particular case, I approve haha... Would have hated to see Tricky Dicky in office during the Cuban Missile Crisis. On the other hand, perhaps JFK would have won the next election and would not have been assassinated....who knows?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: bbracken677

I am talking about today, frankly, it's disturbing the number of people who are simultaneously pro gun, and at the exact same time willing to violate the constitutional rights of Americans by disenfranchising them with unconstitutional voter ID laws.

For a relative non issue like voter fraud. If you compared side by side cases of voter fraud versus cases of homicide/suicide by firearm the issue we should be dealing with is quite clear.

But again, to bring this back to the topic of the OP:

This protest was by a special interest group using vets to promote an agenda about a Russian made AK-47 that because of the sanctions against Russia at this time is banned from import.

Let's think about this, and see who we really need to be angry with. An American citizen who doesn't understand the unbridled hero worship that vets receive for doing a job they volunteered for, or a special interest group that is using veterans in a political ploy for no other reason than to make the president look bad, over a foreign made gun, that they temporarily aren't able to get.

Please people, a little critical thinking is all I ask.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: bbracken677

I am talking about today, frankly, it's disturbing the number of people who are simultaneously pro gun, and at the exact same time willing to violate the constitutional rights of Americans by disenfranchising them with unconstitutional voter ID laws.

For a relative non issue like voter fraud. If you compared side by side cases of voter fraud versus cases of homicide/suicide by firearm the issue we should be dealing with is quite clear.

But again, to bring this back to the topic of the OP:

This protest was by a special interest group using vets to promote an agenda about a Russian made AK-47 that because of the sanctions against Russia at this time is banned from import.

Let's think about this, and see who we really need to be angry with. An American citizen who doesn't understand the unbridled hero worship that vets receive for doing a job they volunteered for, or a special interest group that is using veterans in a political ploy for no other reason than to make the president look bad, over a foreign made gun, that they temporarily aren't able to get.

Please people, a little critical thinking is all I ask.


Considering you've applied zero critical thinking so far, the request is rather ironic.

First of all, how does requiring someone to provide ID disenfranchise them? Every time someone who is not authorized to vote, votes or someone votes more than once, someone else is disenfranchised. Supporting the integrity of the ballot actually enfranchises people.

You miss the entire point of the AK issue. It is an anti-gun administration circumventing law and the Constitution by using the executive branches' power over imports and exports to enact a gun ban--albeit a small one--and that's the principle. If you would apply some of that "critical thinking" you mentioned, you would be able to see the real issue. I asked you earlier--what other consumer products from Russia are being banned right now by these "sanctions?"



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

1. I was joking till a bunch of crybaby vets decided to wet themselves in this thread. From what it read like some of them are gonna file for cases of ptsd after this thread.

I thought vets were supposed to be tough. Most of these guys wouldn't last a day in my shoes.

2. I didn't say voter fraud never occurred at all, i proved it was not as prevalent as the right thinks it is.

3. Are you STILL on that birther crap?


So what exactly do you do?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: HauntWok

Well, at least the "special interest group" didn't have to pay the vets to go protest. Like most of the Progressive groups do.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: macman


Well, at least the "special interest group" didn't have to pay the vets to go protest. Like most of the Progressive groups do.


Are you sure about that? Can you prove that this group wasn't paid?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: HauntWok

Why do I need to?

Can you prove that they were paid?

Is this all that you have?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: SlapMonkey


Great, another one that thinks tropic thunder was a documentary.


Go back, actually read what i wrote, get the flag out of your eyes and see this BS for what it really is.


It is people like you who make the term "go full retard" a reality. I read what you actually wrote, hence my comment, but thanks for the suggestion.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: NavyDoc

In an earlier post he stated he managed a F##KIN carwash,that a private could run.




SOMEBODY WILL PAY ME FOR THIS?
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posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: macman

If you can't prove they weren't paid, then why bring up the subject of paid protesters?



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Exactly...hence all his free time on ATS.

A keyboard warrior badmouthing real warriors. Ironic isn't it?

For the record...I love every single one of you Vets and thank you for ALL the sacrifices you guys and gals make.

Including the amazing amount of restraint you've all shown in this thread. The war that is being waged on our country by our own government wishes to destroy us within. To dishonor the honorable and discourage the fearless spirit of those warriors by disowning them.

But know this.....a hell of a lot of the citizens in this country will fight the good fight when and if that day ever comes. And when that battle is finished know that it was fought in the memory and spirit of those wonderful and brave people who gave it their all. Our Vets.



posted on Jul, 23 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

And not living off the taxpayer dime, which is something that a lot of vets can't say.



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