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Scientists Get First Look Inside Mysterious Siberian Crater

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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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im guessing a long long time ago something punctured that piece of crust. Maybe it was a meteor or who knows what.
Over millennia as the permafrost/ice/rock has built up over it, that perfect little hole continually froze, unfroze, fell through, refroze, unfroze etc... expanded, froze, fell through, expanded.. Its permafrost after all.

The sides are smooth, but they are wet. There's water dripping down. some sort of ice melting yeah?

I'm thinking each cycle of this thing a cork creates its self made of permafrost.
The older it gets the heavier it gets eventually (maybe 100's of years) the circular shape provided from the meteor or what ever contracts too much and pushes the circular permafrost cork through, like a deep pimple. the friction on the permafrost melts and slides the length of the hole. causing a smoothish look, a melted ice smoothish look!!

I doubt a mechanical object rose out of the ground, war of the worlds style.




posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 06:30 AM
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It looks like a common sinkhole to me, and, like All Seeing Eye said, we can see many similar looking features on that area, small lakes with a small stream of water going into them, and we can see also that debris "crown" around those small lakes. Also, if we look at the debris "crown" around the hole, we can see that it doesn't look the same around the whole perimeter, as it should look if the debris were ejecta, either from a meteor or an explosion. The debris don't go far away from the hole either, so it makes me think that those debris may be the result of the water freezing and pushing the ground around it in winter.

In conclusion, although the first time I see something like this, I think it's just a natural phenomenon.

Edited to add that, looking at other photos in this page, I now think that there's too much debris just to be the result of the sides of the lake being pushed by ice, but I still think it doesn't look like ejecta of any kind.


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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 07:23 AM
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Very interesting indeed. It's stories like this that attracted me to ATS in the first place and make me keep on coming back. It really does make your mind drift away at the possibilities.

Just a thought (prob already been mentioned though) Do we have the gps co- ordinates and has anyone checked google Earth to see what was there beforehand?

GORR



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 07:47 AM
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it looks like a steam explosion from below shooting upward they say those have alot of power sending debre 100ds of feet in space



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: GoodOlRogerRing
Just a thought (prob already been mentioned though) Do we have the gps co- ordinates and has anyone checked google Earth to see what was there beforehand?

I didn't see any coordinates, but the whole Yamal peninsula is full of holes of all sizes.




posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: ArMaP
It looks like a common sinkhole to me, and, like All Seeing Eye said, we can see many similar looking features on that area, small lakes with a small stream of water going into them, and we can see also that debris "crown" around those small lakes. Also, if we look at the debris "crown" around the hole, we can see that it doesn't look the same around the whole perimeter, as it should look if the debris were ejecta, either from a meteor or an explosion. The debris don't go far away from the hole either, so it makes me think that those debris may be the result of the water freezing and pushing the ground around it in winter.

In conclusion, although the first time I see something like this, I think it's just a natural phenomenon.

Edited to add that, looking at other photos in this page, I now think that there's too much debris just to be the result of the sides of the lake being pushed by ice, but I still think it doesn't look like ejecta of any kind.



I'm not pretending to be some sink hole expert, but don't sink holes typically cave in? In this case, we see that it ejected outward, not inward in a collapse... I don't believe there was an explosion with any heat (since we don't see any burn marks), but I do believe it could have been more of an ejection of pressure, similar to a cork in a champagne bottle that bursts outwards...



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
I'm not pretending to be some sink hole expert, but don't sink holes typically cave in?

They do.


In this case, we see that it ejected outward, not inward in a collapse...

That's the difference, I don't think that looks ejected, it looks the result of some slow process, as I don't see anything pointing to dirt and plants being thrown, only pushed.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: ArMaP
It looks like a common sinkhole to me, and, like All Seeing Eye said, we can see many similar looking features on that area, small lakes with a small stream of water going into them, and we can see also that debris "crown" around those small lakes. Also, if we look at the debris "crown" around the hole, we can see that it doesn't look the same around the whole perimeter, as it should look if the debris were ejecta, either from a meteor or an explosion. The debris don't go far away from the hole either, so it makes me think that those debris may be the result of the water freezing and pushing the ground around it in winter.

In conclusion, although the first time I see something like this, I think it's just a natural phenomenon.

Edited to add that, looking at other photos in this page, I now think that there's too much debris just to be the result of the sides of the lake being pushed by ice, but I still think it doesn't look like ejecta of any kind.



I'm not pretending to be some sink hole expert, but don't sink holes typically cave in? In this case, we see that it ejected outward, not inward in a collapse... I don't believe there was an explosion with any heat (since we don't see any burn marks), but I do believe it could have been more of an ejection of pressure, similar to a cork in a champagne bottle that bursts outwards...
Yeah, what ever happened here was from the inside out or the result of a UFO using a displacement beam to force a hole in the ground
It's certainly not a normal sinkhole unless aliens making holes is normal lol

It is a pretty massive hole, that's for sure. It's over 400k cubic meters in volume. there's certainly not that much material forming that berm. The hole also gives us a good idea of how thick the displaced surface layer was. I realize it may not have been uniform, but the sides do appear to be pretty uniform. The berm doesn't look like it contains all that material either. I'd like to see what's down that "tunnel" on one side of this thing


Very odd

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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:39 AM
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don't they have tiny drones in russia? helloe..amazon.com you can get a "Parrot" next day air anywhere in the world and fly it in there and have a real look.

weird stuff happening worldwide besides the obvious runup to WW3.......



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: jhn7537
I'm not pretending to be some sink hole expert, but don't sink holes typically cave in?

They do.


In this case, we see that it ejected outward, not inward in a collapse...

That's the difference, I don't think that looks ejected, it looks the result of some slow process, as I don't see anything pointing to dirt and plants being thrown, only pushed.
Well they estimated this hole to have been formed about two years ago, so some type of erosion could have occurred during that time. But, there still doesn't appear to be enough material from the layer that formed the dome.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: IngolfStern
don't they have tiny drones in russia? helloe..amazon.com you can get a "Parrot" next day air anywhere in the world and fly it in there and have a real look.

For free?



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
More pictures and video can be found here:

climatestate.com...

From the above



According to Anna Kurchatova, with the Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre, the hole could have to do with the thawing of Siberia’s permafrost, a consequence of global warming. The rapid release of gas previously trapped in the ice, she said, could have combined with sand beneath the surface to form an underground explosion.




They make the comment in the article that it could be a methane explosion. Where is the scorching? Everything looks like nice normal dirt and rocks.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: FyreByrd
More pictures and video can be found here:

climatestate.com...

From the above



According to Anna Kurchatova, with the Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre, the hole could have to do with the thawing of Siberia’s permafrost, a consequence of global warming. The rapid release of gas previously trapped in the ice, she said, could have combined with sand beneath the surface to form an underground explosion.




They make the comment in the article that it could be a methane explosion. Where is the scorching? Everything looks like nice normal dirt and rocks.

Cheers - Dave


Well, they believe the hole could have formed 2 years ago. Maybe erosion and the elements took away any evidence of just that.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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One heck of a earthworm? One has to wonder. Intriguing nonetheless...



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: SeekingDepth

That suggestion seems the most likely answer. Once it gets warm enough for the methane to sublimate out of the water, it'll go up in a manner that's not too different from diet coke + mentos. Surrounding soil looks like a high clay content, so the water washes it smooth on the way out. Still plenty of water on the bottom after the methane escaped too.

More or less it's a mud volcano, but with the right conditions for a more violent eruption than the typical oozing bubbling mud.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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I have to say by looking at the hole and the vertical lines, that something bored that out.

Vary similar to a tunnel boring machines footprint, but with an added heat element, or some type of fusion.

Here is my link and info to prove my position.

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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The walls inside look melted like lava except smoother and a different color.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: Staroth
The walls inside look melted like lava except smoother and a different color.

I noticed that, but then I noticed that there's water falling along the walls, and that would make that smooth look.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: nighthawk1954
To me it looks like a impact site!



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:15 PM
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one word - cthonian



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