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Pyramids of Giza produced white powdered gold (mono-atomic gold) New Theory!!!!

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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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I think Roc was trying to get someone to say 'Manna', or as the AE called in Mennu why I don't know he seems to have set great store in it.

Why is that Roc?




posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
a reply to: Mr Mask

Like i said before, who are you to say that the Egyptians built this for the purpose of gold power thinking it would give them all sorts of special powers, doesn't mean it actually worked. who knows if the pyramid of Giza was just one GIANT failure. how can you prove that wrong?



You cant, really, but there is absolutely zero supporting "documentation". There are no hieroglyphs which would suggest it or anything even remotely close to suggesting it. There is, however, some indications that support the current accepted theories as provided by archaeologists. Does not mean they have pegged it, but it's better than having zippo for support, no?

Therefore, to suggest that it's purpose is to make gold is no more valid than to suggest it was a method for curing yeast infections for the female population. Or perhaps it was designed to be a massive mouse trap? Makes just as much sense to claim it to be a mouse trap as a gold plant.



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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exactly, which further proves my point that no one is correct in this instance, all we have to go on is what someone said it was about, oh this picture looks like water so its water this one looks like bread so its bread, but bread cant be two separate symbols, let alone an egg shaped symbol in his hands. where the bread rolls were flat and didnt stand up tall.
im just saying Mr Mask should just back down because even he is making himself look like a fool for saying what he believes to be correct, and everyone else is wrong,
He must be Christian.

and i get what your saying, im not agreeing that it was made for the purpose of gold im just saying how can you possible know? how do we know that aliens didnt help build the pyramid and with some special artifact that they provided this whole theory could actually work, but when they pulled out they took it with them rendering the pyramid useless. how can you really disprove it? im not saying this is true, its just an example.

And don't say that the pyramids have no evidence of Aliens because there's tons of hieroglyphs that show evidence of some thing coming from above, or maybe they just have some really good hallucinogens.

a reply to: bbracken677

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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: R0CR13

I think you are being disingenuous. You have gotten answers to your questions twice now. The condescension in the previous response was deserved, IMO.

Now you want to know what the bread is made of? Is there a point? If so, please make it and spare us the false drama.

Didn't you know?

Ancient humans were too stoopid to make bread.
They depended on their ancient alien bakeries for croissants.

Harte



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: pimptriggs

"We can know nothing because there are endless other possibilities".

Yeah



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: pimptriggs

Howdy,

Did you know that languages change over time? Like, words such as "selfie" are actually recognized in dictionaries... Written texts have also changed, perhaps you are familiar with the "long s?"
en.wikipedia.org...

See, the "english letters" haven't always been the same shape, yet they've consistently represented the same concept. You can have two different symbols for s, a much less easily definable concept than the concrete object that is bread.

I'm not an expert on Egypt, languages, or symbolic reasoning, but I find your claim that bread could not have more than one symbol suspect... I have no idea how reliable this source (random website) is, but it seems to show multiple hieroglyphs representing bread... One egg shaped.

www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk...

Regards,
Hydeman



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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ok but still this is no different than what i just said,
just because some researcher says its bread, is it really? how are you to know for 100% certain that it is. how is the researcher 100% sure hes correct. ??

Just like the scientists that say planets are made of such and such gases. like why do you think that because of its color? how do you know it makes that same color in a far distant climate, no one can truly be sure,

from your link.
The following hieroglyphs have been grouped according to the system established by Sir Alan Gardiner and are all depictions of bread and cakes.

so if you think hes 100% correct, by all means believe it. its still just one other person.
a reply to: hydeman11




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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: R0CR13
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Here is something you don't get you are unqualified to discuss this topic .

I don't know how to put this without violating some rule of decorum

But I feel Sorry for you .

Your're nowhere near as clever as you think you are .

Time wasted chalked up to experience ..

enjoy your thread .

.


I've spent over 30 years on this subject. It is a passion of mine. I see you are leaving saying "those grapes are sour anyways".

Mind you, I don't think I am clever. Most children learn this information in early years of school. This is not "clever talk" it is "simple talk" to most.

And yes...you did waste everyone's time. But at least you showed anyone reading this thread what the rest of the nonsense worshipers have also shown.

"That when asked for evidence, you change the subject and/or leave without sharing evidence".

Sir...there is no nice way of saying this, so I'll just keep it cold and hard.

You have no understanding of history or physics and you are a metaphorical cancer within the bosom of truth.

AND you are a dishonest zealot of fantasy. You said you would share your information after your questions were answered. You did not. Making you a liar.

MM
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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
a reply to: Mr Mask
Secondly the symbol used in the hieroglyphics for BREAD. looks absolutely nothing the same as the link you provided. Or are you going to tell me next that you used multiple symbols for the same thing, i LAFF at you sir.

Laugh all you want, but don't choke on the bread hieroglyph (top row, last loaf on the right.)


originally posted by: pimptriggsthe whole point of the matter is simply this.
no one is capable of answering this question because no one was truly there.

Similarly, you cannot ask the question because you are not here.


originally posted by: pimptriggs
History was written from the people who won the battles and who wanted to symbolize their power, even if that means to LIE.

I think that lying about bread is likely to be more common today than in Ancient Egypt.

Of course, I suppose they could have reworked their entire hieroglyphic alphabet in order to hide the Divine Bread Makers from the rest of us humans.


originally posted by: pimptriggsPeople should be aloud to express what they feel is correct,

Exactly what Mr. Mask is doing.
It seems you have a problem only when other people think they are allowed (rather than "aloud") to say what they think.


originally posted by: pimptriggs and who are you to say they are wrong or down right lying, how do they even know if they are lying if in fact that have no idea, JUST LIKE YOU.

Whether you care to believe it or not, people do exist in this world that can read what the Egyptians wrote about bread. You seem not to know that bread was very often given as an offering - especially to the dead.
We even have some of this bread, recovered from tombs. Hell, Egyptians might even let you taste some, if you let them put it on YouTube.


originally posted by: pimptriggs your such a hypocritical a$$hole and i know you love it. feed off the flaming some more you troll.

T&C Violation. That really is alarming, coming from someone asserting the right to tell other people how to act and post.


originally posted by: pimptriggs now let people discuss in privacy, we dont need your input let alone do we even care.

Translation: "Leave us alone so we can continue to live in a sparkly dreamworld where everyone nods and winks at each other, confident in the knowledge that only they are "in on" the BIG SECRET. We feel it is our RIGHT to post privately to each other on a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM, and not be bothered by other posters on that forum. We have the right to control other people's speech."


originally posted by: pimptriggsLEARN TO EXPAND YOUR MIND.

And there it is again.

You keep your mind in a little box created for you by fringers. You follow their strictures to the letter, not only ignoring the actual evidence, but crying about it when people try to point it out to you.

Harte



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: pimptriggs

Howdy,

I understand your skeptical thinking. In fact, I respect it. I even encourage it. But you are arguing from a position of ignorance (which is not bad, it just means you do not know. We all have points of ignorance).

No one is ever 100% sure. Are you 100% sure I exist? That YOU exist? I'm not sure I exist... I'm reasonably confident given my experiences, but not 100% sure. This is true of all things. Those things that have a large amount of evidence behind them, we can be reasonably sure to be accurate representations of the truth.

Why do scientists say the planets are made of gases? I could tell you that spectroscopy, unmanned spacecraft sent to planets, and even physical models of how the solar system formed are independently valid options, but work in unison and agreement when placed side by side.

As I said, I'm not an expert in Egyptology or language/communication, but I assume the same kind of rigorous studies have been applied. This is my assumption, yes, but it is founded in my experience of having myself done rigorous testing and observing to meet my own understanding in my own field of study. In fact, anyone who has been formally educated on the topic will have been forced to learn these methods by which they could study, observe, and learn with less bias.

In short, I trust in the scientific method, and I trust in scientists. If all of the experts independently agreed that the Pyramids of Giza did not produce gold, and that there was no evidence to support the claim that they did, well I'd be inclined to agree with them. So far I have seen zero evidence that advanced machinery existed in the pyramids, or that it could have even worked... This is truly being skeptical of claims made, something which I've seen you're in agreement with me on.

Regards,
Hydeman
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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
this one looks like bread so its bread, but bread cant be two separate symbols, let alone an egg shaped symbol in his hands. where the bread rolls were flat and didnt stand up tall.



Sigh..I will not back down, because I am sharing evidence. Now you seem to be confusing the hieroglyph for "bread" (half circle laying down with domed top and flat bottom) for one of the most famous and most abundantly used (from the first dynasty to the last) hieroglyphs- the "Cone-Bread".

The Cone-Bread symbol means "to give or present". In all images showing bread sacrifice or Cone-Bread giving, it doesn't even mean "a man giving bread to someone".

When an image shows a man or woman holding out the Cone-Bread, it means its an offering. To give Gold or slaves to a man would still be shown as a man holding out the Cone-Bread.

The Cone-Bread symbol is possibly one of the most famous (and most used) hieroglyphs that span the entire history of all the dynasties.

I am not wrong. I am also not impressed with nonsense. I have linked to the info. I have explained the info. You can shake your head, but make sure you link and explain to me why.

Lastly, this entire thread is filled with many people coming in here with a lot of legitimate knowledge, documented facts, solid translations and logical discourse.

BUT NOTICE that this ONLY applies to those debunking the hogwash presented in the OP and/or to those destroying the subject-changing myths and lies presented in attempts to change the subject or sway the gullible.

These has not been one single sentence or piece of evidence shared yet in support of the magical nonsense. Know why? it don't exist and it was all invented in the late 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s by hoaxers and lying scum.

Lastly- did you just say there can not be more than one symbol for "bread"? Weird, I know of 4 and i am sure there must be more.

That is like saying there is only one word for calling something "stupid".

MM



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
Mr Mask should just back down because even he is making himself look like a fool for saying what he believes to be correct, and everyone else is wrong,
He must be Christian.


I am not a Christian. Are you saying all Christians are information bigots? Classy statement.

What about the many scientists who are Christians? From the inventor of the laser, to the man who lead the Genome Project that fist broke DNA for mankind to read? Are they also unreasonable types?

Ya...sorry, but everything you just posted was riddled with errors and misunderstandings of science.

Let me clear some things up for you.

1) Nothing says chemical reactions will be the same color across space and in different climates? Wrong. This is why we have physical constants in the universe. In fact, the fact that a chemical buring will produce the same colors even across entire galaxies is considered one of the greatest mysteries of modern science. A far greater mystery than "debating invented nonsense from hoaxers". A uniformed reality (Like one present in the LAMDA CDM) is amazing and mysterious. Nobody can explain why our universe is uniform or why things react the same across all space-time. But they do.

2) Science is not in the business of "proving something to be 100% fact". There is no real goal to provide unquestionable data in science. Science is about providing peer reviewed and reproducible data. It is always open to be proven wrong or changed by the scientific method.

3) The nonsense in this thread is not testable. It is also not noted in any creditable academic works of modern academia. That is the problem here. There is evidence for ALL things the debunkers have said in this thread. There is zero evidence for the nonsense claims. IN FACT there is actually much evidence against it.

That is all an intelligent mind seeking truth has...evidence. Not past lives, not visions, not telepathic communications with demons, ghosts or aliens. Not semantics that run in circles. Not stupid invented hoaxes...and surely not anything that goes directly against the constants within the laws of physics that rule and govern over your reality.

SHOW evidence...like we are doing on the side of logic. I am tired of reading "no no no no!" but then not seeing evidence.

SHOW ME EVIDENCE...or step aside as the train of logic crushes all those who appose it.

MM



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:14 PM
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its awefully kind of you to assume you know what im saying and put words in my mouth,
but christians believe that all other religions are false.

that being said you refuse everything anyone has to say and only reply with your beliefs, which quite frankly just amuses my now.

I dont need to give you evidence, why? because every time i tell you im trying to explain that you cant possible know everything and to broaden your thoughts, you think about what Dimtry Itskov wants to accomplish, says by the year 2045 he will be able to artificially create a Brain that they will be able to transfer your mind and consciousness to and gain biological immortality, just because theres no evidence that it will work is he wrong to persist. sometimes thinking outside the box is where the greatest idea comes from and your just a Bigot who will succeed with nothing than whats layed in front of you, congratulations a reply to: Mr Mask


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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick




You are just playing bs games. In the post you responded to a asked about the time frame of the pyramid being built. I have sibmitted that the stones were provided for them to put it together and that is how they were able to errect it in the known time slot. Can you explain how you believe it was done? it.


Actually, yes I can tell you how I personally believe it was done. I can also posts the books, journals, experiments and the people who wrote and performed them.

But as I told you sir...that is not the topic of this thread. I have been on this site for many years, and I do NOT play that "stupid game" of "follow the liar" or "follow the uneducated madness" down unrelated subjects.

I am here doing what ATS is ONLY about. Denying Ignorance. I am also doing it with evidence and the help of others who are taking the time to educate you.

You have presented "visions you had of you working in the pyramids before you were murdered" and then tried to drag me down a long debate about construction practices. No sir. I am not here to teach you what is written about the construction of any structure.

I am here to help destroy lies and nonsense.

I am also open to "evidence". Have any?

MM




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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
its awefully kind of you to assume you know what im saying and put words in my mouth,
but christians believe that all other religions are false.

that being said you refuse everything anyone has to say and only reply with your beliefs, which quite frankly just amuses my now. a reply to: Mr Mask



I promise you are nowhere near as amused as I am over your mistake on the translation of "Bread" and your inability to accept it even when shown the proof.

Lastly...thanks so so so SOOOOOOO much for adding information to this thread's topic. It was riveting and insightful.


MM



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Mr Mask

originally posted by: pimptriggs
its awefully kind of you to assume you know what im saying and put words in my mouth,
but christians believe that all other religions are false.

that being said you refuse everything anyone has to say and only reply with your beliefs, which quite frankly just amuses my now. a reply to: Mr Mask



I promise you are nowhere near as amused as I am over your mistake on the translation of "Bread" and your inability to accept it even when shown the proof.

Lastly...thanks so so so SOOOOOOO much for adding information to this thread's topic. It was riveting and insightful.


MM
how can you think that the bread was a symbolism for gifts such as gold or slaves. How hard is it to think that maybe just maybe it means some thing different. Stop trying to play the last hand because your all u can say is other people's words which again all speculation



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: Mr Mask

originally posted by: deadeyedick




You are just playing bs games. In the post you responded to a asked about the time frame of the pyramid being built. I have sibmitted that the stones were provided for them to put it together and that is how they were able to errect it in the known time slot. Can you explain how you believe it was done? it.


Actually, yes I can tell you how I personally believe it was done. I can also posts the books, journals, experiments and the people who wrote and performed them.

But as I told you sir...that is not the topic of this thread. I have been on this site for many years, and I do NOT play that "stupid game" of "follow the liar" or "follow the uneducated madness" down unrelated subjects.

I am here doing what ATS is ONLY about. Denying Ignorance. I am also doing it with evidence and the help of others who are taking the time to educate you.

You have presented "visions you had of you working in the pyramids before you were murdered" and then tried to drag me down a long debate about construction practices. No sir. I am not here to teach you what is written about the construction of any structure.

I am here to help destroy lies and nonsense.

I am also open to "evidence". Have any?

MM



it's also quite funny that you just deny what other people have to bring to the plate and deny a response when it's a simple answer isn't it. You can tell me how the pyramid was built can't you.

other than the lack of proof that only again hieroglyphs have shown us and given us to go on.

Until they build a pyramid the way they think it was Done I won't be convinced. Nor would I give any credibility to any link you provide just to spite you.
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posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: pimptriggs
exactly, which further proves my point that no one is correct in this instance, all we have to go on is what someone said it was about, oh this picture looks like water so its water this one looks like bread so its bread, but bread cant be two separate symbols, let alone an egg shaped symbol in his hands. where the bread rolls were flat and didnt stand up tall.

I suppose that there exists only one word used in the English language for the following variations:


Words such as "kaiser roll" and "sourdough loaf," since they aren't spelled like the word "bread," are made up by mean, can'tthinkoutofthebox, posters?

Read this:

An. M.LXVI. On þyssum geare man halgode þet mynster æt Westmynstre on Cyldamæsse dæg 7 se cyng Eadward forðferde on Twelfts mæsse æfen 7 hine mann bebyrgede on Twelftan mæssedæg innan þære niwa halgodre circean on Westmyntre 7 Harold eorl feng to Englalandes cynerice swa swa se cyng hit him geuðe 7 eac men hine þærto gecuron 7 wæs gebletsod to cynge on Twelftan mæssedæg 7 þa ylcan geare þe he cyng wæs he for ut mid sciphere togeanes Willelme ...

translation:


1066 In this year the monastery at Westminster was hallowed on Childermas day (28 December). And king Eadward died on Twelfth-mass eve (5 January) and he was buried on Twelfth-mass day, in the newly hallowed church at Westminster. And earl Harold succeeded to the Kingdom of England, as the king had granted it to him and men had also chosen him thereto and he was blessed as king on Twelfth-mass day. And in the same year that he was king he went out with a naval force against William

The first quote has even had the individual letters changed to the modern ones, but it is still unreadable.

The time difference between these two texts (both are English) is only about 500 years. Wouldn't you think it likely that perhaps hieroglyphs changed over the years in Egypt, given their use spanned a period five times as long?

Harte



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: hydeman11
a reply to: pimptriggs

Howdy,

I understand your skeptical thinking. In fact, I respect it. I even encourage it. But you are arguing from a position of ignorance (which is not bad, it just means you do not know. We all have points of ignorance).

No one is ever 100% sure. Are you 100% sure I exist? That YOU exist? I'm not sure I exist... I'm reasonably confident given my experiences, but not 100% sure. This is true of all things. Those things that have a large amount of evidence behind them, we can be reasonably sure to be accurate representations of the truth.

Why do scientists say the planets are made of gases? I could tell you that spectroscopy, unmanned spacecraft sent to planets, and even physical models of how the solar system formed are independently valid options, but work in unison and agreement when placed side by side.

As I said, I'm not an expert in Egyptology or language/communication, but I assume the same kind of rigorous studies have been applied. This is my assumption, yes, but it is founded in my experience of having myself done rigorous testing and observing to meet my own understanding in my own field of study. In fact, anyone who has been formally educated on the topic will have been forced to learn these methods by which they could study, observe, and learn with less bias.

In short, I trust in the scientific method, and I trust in scientists. If all of the experts independently agreed that the Pyramids of Giza did not produce gold, and that there was no evidence to support the claim that they did, well I'd be inclined to agree with them. So far I have seen zero evidence that advanced machinery existed in the pyramids, or that it could have even worked... This is truly being skeptical of claims made, something which I've seen you're in agreement with me on.

Regards,
Hydeman
my skeptical thinking is far less complex than your making it. I agree with you im trying to get people to speculate. I mean that's what this is all about is it now



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: Mr Mask

originally posted by: pimptriggs
Mr Mask should just back down because even he is making himself look like a fool for saying what he believes to be correct, and everyone else is wrong,
He must be Christian.


I am not a Christian. Are you saying all Christians are information bigots? Classy statement.

Maybe not. But he did call you an a$$hole.

Doesn't that mean you sheet gold bricks?

Coinage, at least?

Powdered gold, maybe?

Harte




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