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originally posted by: haarvik
a reply to: Annee
What state I live in is irrelevant. The ACA affects everyone. I work in another state from where I live, and that state is pro ACA. And just like the ACA website, it too is screwed up. If you want to push left agendas, go right ahead. The rest of us intelligent Americans will keep the torch of truth burning.
originally posted by: Annee
Imagine what it would be like if everyone and all political parties worked together to make a national healthcare system work instead of some doing everything they can to make it be a mess and not work.
Setting aside the never-ending nonsense peddled by the opponents of healthcare reform, everyone from the Congressional Budget Office to numerous private actuaries have warned that premium shock could be expected to set in once the public began to see the reality of what Obamacare would mean to their pocketbooks. And yet, the only real jolt to the system being felt by these public and private prognosticators today is utter amazement over just how reasonable the California prices have turned out to be. www.forbes.com... s/
originally posted by: loam
But I'd be willing to bet it would be a vast improvement over what we had/have or will have.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Annee
The article is from May 2013 before the exchanges even opened for "business".
And of course the deductibles are what will force people into bankruptcy, not the clever little "premiums".
Not to mention the things that aren't even covered.
California probes Obamacare doctor networks at Anthem and Blue Shield
California regulators are investigating whether Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield of California have violated state law in connection to patients struggling to find doctors under Obamacare.
Officials at the California Department of Managed Health Care said they are looking into whether consumers were misled by inaccurate provider lists and the difficulty some patients are still having at locating a physician in narrower networks statewide.
Many consumers have vented for months about the smaller networks that insurers stitched together for the start of Obamacare coverage. The complaints have touched on a number of different issues.
First, insurers and California's health exchange confused people by publishing erroneous lists of network providers. Consumers often relied on that information to choose which health plan to buy.
Then patients got conflicting answers from insurers and doctor's offices as to whether a physician was accepting their plan.
In other cases, patients received treatment only to find out later that their insurer considered the provider out of network and wouldn't cover the bill.
Brace for the next round of Obamacare rate shock
...one factor that's been keeping rates from soaring even higher is that insurers have responded to all of the new regulatory requirements by reducing the choice of doctors and hospitals offered in their plans. This Obamacare-accelerated trend toward “narrow networks” actually triggered a consumer lawsuit against Anthem Blue Cross, California's largest for profit-health insurer.
The average increases are in excess of 11% in the small group market and 12% in the individual market. Some state show increases 10 to 50 times that amount. The analysts conclude that the “increases are largely due to changes under the ACA.” The analysts conducting the survey attribute the rate increases largely to a combination of four factors set in motion by Obamacare: Commercial underwriting restrictions, the age bands that don’t allow insurers to vary premiums between young and old beneficiaries based on the actual costs of providing the coverage, the new excise taxes being levied on insurance plans, and new benefit designs. www.forbes.com... lame-obamacare/